Re: ShopTalk: Black Rock Killer Bee 3 & 5 Woods

[Bernie Baymiller]

Pat,   Don't know about the Black Rock shafts, but the driver shaft listed in the '99 GS catalog is a Bullwhip 47", 4.0 torque, 65 gram shaft.   The Bullwhip II+ in this year's catalog is a different animal...45", 72-74 grams and same 4.0 torque. The Bullwhip II is 45", 69-72 grams and 5.5 torque. These'd probably work out better for a fairway wood anyway. Guess you could look up the specs and compare in the 2002 GS shaft replacement guide on their web site, but if you can't find it there, there were more shown in the 2000 version and I have a copy.   Bernie Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]     ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 8:34 PM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Black Rock Killer Bee 3 & 5 Woods Thanks Bernie,   I have all of Golfsmith's catalogs dating back to 94" except 95, 98 and 99. Are the Bull whip shafts similar to the black rock shafts? The one he has is the #2 regular. Pat McGoldrick On Target Golf ----- Original Message ----- From: Bernie Baymiller To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 11:16 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Black Rock Killer Bee 3 & 5 Woods Pat,   I have a customer looking for a 3 & 5wood to match his Driver, are there such clubs ?   See the GS 1999 catalog, page 69 for Black Rock XLD-3 48" driver head, spec weight 183 grams. The fairway woods were KB II stainless at 14° 3W and 17° 5W. No more KB Black Rock clubs in the 2003 GS catalog, but yes, page 56 of the catalog has a Killer Bee Stinger Plus 3W and 5W, which look very similar, but have lofts of 15° and 19° and are about 10cc larger.   >Just pulled the head of the driver and it weighs in @ 186 grams. Could this be the reason everyone loves this club @ 48" ?   That's about the only way to keep the swingweight in the mid-to-low Ds. But, in my experience, a head weight under 190 grams loses a lot of "pop" in a long driver. If the objective is distance, which is about the only reason to use a long driver, I think a player will get the maximum by playing a heavier head on the club, with a swingweight as high as he (or she) can handle and control for 18 holes. For me and many of my seniors, that's a head weight about 194-196 grams and, with a 50-something gram shaft, a swingweight of about D9-E2 at a 48" club length and total weight about 295-300 grams. I notice that all the newer Killer Bee driver heads have weights in the mid to high 190s.   Bernie Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]