Joe,
I would have to agree with Bernie, the S450 head is
still one of the best on the market, and the price is
quite a bit less then what Steve Alomo charges for his
biam big bang head. I have one of the original designs
that has a very very thin face in my bag, I have used
several LH s450 heads, they still are very thin face.
IMO for a senior player, if you build a long driver
47"-52" it is still the best head you can buy at the
best price that is light enough (195gm) for the
customer to swing it. I use the Proforce 55 shaft for
47" and the longwood 50-50 for longer lengths. I thing
Bernie uses a different shaft than the proforce. I
have sold close to 50 clubs using the S450 & the
Proforce 55. I have not had a customer comeback yet
and ask for a different head or shaft. I build one
last week for a customer with a 82mph swing (72 yrs
old) used a very soft 55 A flex and a 196gm S450 head
(10deg) built to 47 1/4".  Customer gained 25 yards
average longest was over a 50 yard gain. He came in
yesterday to order a back-up driver. He is so afraid
that the head design or shaft may change or that
someone may steal his driver that he wants a spare. 
This is the 5th spare driver I have built with this
combo. I can't remember building spares for any other
head before.

George Huson
ByGeorge Custom Clubs
--- Bernie Baymiller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Joe,
> 
> There are lots of suppliers with the Integra Super
> 450...Diamond Tour, IN
> Golf Components, Low Pro (Golf Direct) and others.
> If you are planning on an
> overlength driver, ask for a 195-196 gram head
> weight. They're scarce, but
> play very well for many seniors at 47" and 48". I've
> been playing an S450 on
> a 48" driver for two years and haven't found a head
> that plays any better.
> 
> Astal Vista thought BIAM was a better head. I've
> tried four BIAM driver
> heads and every one was a dog, IMO. Slice machines,
> and no better made than
> the Integras. I guess it's all "in the eyes of the
> beholder." The Big Bang
> 450 is another good head, a bit better quality than
> the S450 and as long
> hitting, or longer, but none are under 198 grams. If
> you are building a
> 44"-45" driver, the BB450 would be a very good
> choice.
> 
> Bernie
> Writeto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, September 06, 2003 8:09 PM
> Subject: ShopTalk: Integra 450 Beta (LH)
> 
> 
> > Hi Group:
> > Someone recommended this head for a senior player.
>   I checked the
> > catalogues I have on hand, and didnt find a
> supplier.
> >
> > Can someone send me a listing of a supplier?
> > I'm in Canada, but I'll gladly order from the US
> > Thanks for the reply Group.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> >
> >
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