I was referring mostly to the Apple equipment. We use Macs exclusively in the school system, and I get a laugh when other teachers have to order keyboards for $70 or a mouse for $40, and pay full price for software. There are so many discount vendors for PC software, Hell, you can get it for free if you are a bit unscrupulous...I'm running XP Pro on 4 computers and it runs like Superman minus Kryptonite...and I get the systems for $1 each through the University. I've been out golfing 3 times this week, yet to break 100, but I'll keep trying..... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mats Bengtsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 7:22 AM Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Conversion factors
> I think you haven't been checking the mac market for a while. I don't > think you can find many accessories that don't work on a mac. It's > almost always so that it's easier to get something to work on a Mac > than on a Win system. > Bluetooth is one of them. > It took me about 5 min to get my SE T68i to talk to my Powerbook, so > that I could use adressbook on the computer to make calls. > My friend tried to connect his phone to his PC. After 2 hours he gave > up, he was missing a couple of drivers. > I agree that a Mac are a bit more expensive that a PC, but it has > longer lifespann and the cost for support are a lot less, i.e if a > company buys Mac it's a bigger investment but in the long run it evens > out pretty nice. > > It's a bit of topic but still. > > Now any day our courses around here open, I hope!!! > > Mats B > Karlstad > > 2004-04-13 kl. 09.02 skrev Greg Vincent: > > > Sure Mac is nice....if you like paying double for software and triple > > for > > accessories...and if you like throwing out perfectly good monitors with > > obsolete computers, and if you like supporting proprietary monopolizing > > corporate greed, ala Microsoft...Apple never could find a way to open > > its > > code and maintain it's 6% market share...LOSERS > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Mats Bengtsson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 2:44 AM > > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Conversion factors > > > > > >> There has been a lot of developments in Mac since you gave up on them, > >> specially OS X, now in it's 3rd version. It is built on Unix and are a > >> LOT more stabile than any Win version you could think about. > >> When it comes to apps, I think you could find just about anything you > >> will ever need. > >> > >> just my 2 ct > >> > >> Mats B > >> Karlstad > >> Sweden > >> > >> > >> 2004-04-13 kl. 02.44 skrev Mark A Patton: > >> > >>> Sorry to come into this thread late (and I haven't seen what other > >>> posts > >>> there may have been) > >>> > >>> RK, Your on XP (hopefully Pro) and having issues? > >>> Dave T, you're on 98? > >>> Linux? > >>> > >>> For what it's worth: > >>> I'm no computer pro. I'm a lazy man that figured I could make a > >>> computer > >>> work for me. > >>> Started with OS/400 and at home once the PC launched used MS. 3.X was > >>> OK. 95 > >>> was a disaster, with 98 being only a minalization of that (har to > >>> rebuild 98 > >>> every 2 months). W2K was better, but much like driving a Semi > >>> through a > >>> tropical paradise (getting the job done but inflicting casualties > >>> long > >>> the > >>> way, and not a good experience). > >>> > >>> Back when I was on 98, I tried many distros of Linux. Great for > >>> someone who > >>> knows puters and OSs, elsewise no go. > >>> Later w/ W2K I tried again and found the same thing for the most part > >>> except > >>> Linux was more intuitive (ie like MAC & windows). Linux could catch > >>> ground, > >>> and would work well for me, but the apps I use aren't available (the > >>> same > >>> reason I gave up on MAC years ago. Doesn't matter how well it works > >>> if > >>> it > >>> doesn;t do what I need it to.) > >>> > >>> Made the change to XP Pro, and as much as I hate to say it, it has > >>> been > >>> Wonderful! > >>> No system issues, no my not understanding what I need to do minor > >>> points, > >>> etc, NO NOTHING. The damn thing just WORKS (within reason of any OS > >>> under > >>> constant attack)! It has just plain WORKED since day one with more > >>> robustness than W2K or Linux ever though about, and with more > >>> intuitiveness > >>> than 3.X, 95 or 98. For the record, I really don;t like it's > >>> interface, so > >>> it was simply reconfigured to look like W2K (which felt like a semi > >>> without > >>> a clutch). > >>> > >>> I guess its just me as adoption rate is low, but as much as I would > >>> like to > >>> deride it, I really like XP Pro. > >>> Word to the wise: any MS product that hints to Home, Education, etc > >>> is > >>> crap. > >>> Pro is the way to go (I guess that is MS terminology for "it works", > >>> > >>> > >>> Mark A Patton > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> > >>> -----Original Message----- > >>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Corey Bailey > >>> Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:41 AM > >>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Conversion factors > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Dave, > >>> If you liked Win NT 3.5, then you will like Win 2K Pro. It's > >>> essentially NT > >>> 5. I use it as the default OS for the PC machines at home with one > >>> box > >>> still running Win 98 R2 for those apps that need it as Win 2K does > >>> obsolete > >>> a number of apps and hdwe that run on 98. > >>> > >>> At work they just changed out everything for new HP's running XP. I > >>> hate it > >>> and it does not interface to the Novel network nearly as well as the > >>> Win 2k > >>> boxes they removed. > >>> > >>> Best, > >>> > >>> CB > >>> Sorry for continuing the "non-golf" thread. > >>> > >>> > >>> At 10:09 AM 4/11/2004 -0400, you wrote: > >>> > >>>> My issues are not UNIX skills. I have been a UNIX user since 1976. > >>>> I'm a > >>>> fairly proficient user of things like "ksh" and "sed". "Vi" used to > >>>> be my > >>>> editor of choice, but the current mouse-based editors have won me > >>>> over > >>>> (about 10 years ago). I waited until Windows got to NT3.5 before I > >>>> made it > >>>> my OS of choice. (I am currently running Win98.) > >>>> > >>>> Like RK, I dislike depending on Microsoft. And that's on the basis > >>>> of > >>>> up-close-and-personal; I made a lot of business and technical trips > >>>> to > >>>> Redmond (and Bellevue, back in 1983 when they were only 350 people), > >>>> so I > >>>> know them and how they work. And I'd rather opt out -- if I could. > >>>> > >>>> My problem is that I use a lot of programs and utilities that only > >>>> run on > >>>> Windows. I haven't tried WINE. If it works well (meaning not much > >>>> lost > >>>> speed running some of the apps), then it might fill the bill for me. > >>>> But I > >>>> don't have the time to experiment with it to find out. Guess I care > >>>> -- but > >>>> not enough to make migration a priority. > >>>> > >>>> Cheers! > >>>> DaveT > >>> > >>> > >>> --- > >>> Incoming mail is certified Virus Free. > >>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >>> Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004 > >>> > >>> --- > >>> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >>> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >>> Version: 6.0.656 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 4/9/2004 > >>> > >> > > >
