Dan, yes those are the very same thing that I used on several sets of clubs that I built, In fact I still have several of them out n my workshop. They have about a 1/16" larger than the normal hosel bore dia and are appprox about 3/8" of straight length with paralle sides with almost a Callaway like crown. Since my illness prevent me from building clubs anymore I have not bought anything from ProSwiing, like I did much business with them anyways, long story but watch them if you go any clubhead buying from them, but now I do a lot less, so I have not really seen one of their Cat's lately. I just had Marion go into my Cat's stash and see if I did indeed get one of their 2004 cats, the answer is yes and on padge 62 they have an item, in fact they have 5 items, two (2) for iron's and three (3), two(2) for .343 dia shafts and one (1) for .350 dia. tips, part #'s HCTR2, HCTRI, INSFW, INSF1, HCTR3.. Yes you must hore out the hosel to be able to insert them, Of course they say that "ONLY" heads that are specialy bored out fo "THESE" ferrules can accept them, HA HA HA., PLUS They even have instruction on how to use hem on the very next page, 63
Again be "VERY" careful if you purchase "ANY" Iron heads from them, VERY CAREFUL!!!!! RK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Neubecker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:19 AM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Butler SSti driver > Hi RK, > > I must be missing something, because I don't see anything like the Butler > ferrule at Pro-Swing. I see what they call wood inserts, or what I would > call collared ferrules, but these are not like the Butler. The Butler > ferrule has parallel sides the full length and I'd say it is a little wider > than the OD of a typical wood hosel. There is no lip on it and no taper, > except a very small 45� bevel at the top. It is shaped like this (I hope > this comes through). F is the ferrule, c is the crown of the head, h is the > hosel, s is the sole plate and * is the shaft. > > *** > *** > FFFFFFF > F *** F > ccccccccF *** Fccccccccc > cF *** Fc > FFFFFFFFF > hhhhhhhhh > h *** h > h *** h > h *** h > h *** h > h *** h > h *** h > h *** h > h *** h > sssssssssssssssssssssssssss > > Dan > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Rchard w kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 6:37 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Butler SSti driver > > > > > >Dan, yes those are the ones that I am talking about you can > >get them from > >Pro Swing. Most likely the best cheapest thing that they sell. > > > >RK > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Dan Neubecker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:48 AM > >Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Butler SSti driver > > > > > >> Richard/Jeff, > >> > >> You may not be clear on what these things look like from my > >description. > >> The hosel sits about 1/4" or so inside the top of the head, > >but does not > >> touch the top shell. The opening in the head is larger than > >the hosel. > >The > >> ferrule is not one of those collared ferrules, but has a > >straight shaft, > >no > >> taper, and is probably 1/2" long. It sets down inside the head, > >essentially > >> on top of the hosel and leaves about 1/4" of it sticking up above the > >crown > >> of the head. I can't think of any other ferrule I've seen > >that would work > >> with this system. > >> > >> BTW, Jeff, I do still have a pullout original Butler SSti > >shaft with the > >> ferrule on it, so I can take a pic of it. I also still have > >a Butler SSti > >> driver that I can take a pic of with a shaft installed, if > >that would be > >> helpful. > >> > >> Dan Neubecker > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >From: Rchard w kennedy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Sent: Sunday, July 04, 2004 11:29 AM > >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Butler SSti driver > >> > > >> > > >> >Jeff Dan All, I get those type style of ferrule(s) from Pro > >> >Swing Golf in > >> >Ohio, somewheres. I use a 7/16 reamer to bore out the hosel > >> >for irons, > >> >remember you can ream out a hole (hosel) to another 1/32 or > >> >.03125. But to > >> >be able to erform this task you're going to need a real heavy > >> >duty reaming > >> >fixture. But your hosel should already be ready o receive > >> >the ferrule. > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: "Dan Neubecker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> >Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 12:59 PM > >> >Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Butler SSti driver > >> > > >> > > >> >> Jeff, > >> >> > >> >> Yes, it has a very unique ferrule system. I doubt you can > >> >find anything > >> >> like it. It sets recessed into the head a bit. The shaft > >> >does not come > >> >> into contact with the top shell of the driver at all. The hosel > >> >essentially > >> >> extrudes up from the bottom of the head, but there is a > >> >space between it > >> >an > >> >> the top shell. The best thing to try and do is heat the > >> >club from the > >> >> bottom only and after you get the head off, try and re-use > >> >the existing > >> >> ferrule. BTW, you will need a jig similar to the one used > >> >for Pings or > >> >> Callaway's to get the head off, because you have no hosel to > >> >push against > >> >> and the puller must push against the top shell of the head. > >> >> > >> >> You might want to think about cutting the shaft off just > >> >above the ferrule > >> >> and then drilling/reaming out the shaft, therefore preserving the > >> >clubheads > >> >> topshell and the ferrule. > >> >> > >> >> Dan Neubecker > >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >-----Original Message----- > >> >> >From: Jeff Stephens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >Sent: Friday, July 02, 2004 11:35 AM > >> >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> >> >Subject: ShopTalk: Butler SSti driver > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >I have a Butler SSti driver (10.5�) from a customer who wants it > >> >> >reshafted. He told me that there is something unique about > >> >the ferrule > >> >> >and the shaft insertion but wasn't sure exactly what it > >> >was. Before I > >> >> >start trying to remove the shaft I though I'd inquire of the > >> >> >collective > >> >> >knowedge of the group. > >> >> > > >> >> >Jeff > >> >> >wholeinone > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >
