Re: ShopTalk: Closed clubface question

[Bernie Baymiller]

Title: Closed clubface question

Jack,   I would guess that it all depends on where you are making impact on the club face. If you're hitting the ball right in the middle of the face, then 2� closed would seemingly give you a straight ball flight 2� left of target. That's not hard to fix at all. But, if you are hitting the ball toward the heel, a square or open face would just accentuate the slice. If you are hitting the ball towards the toe, you could put a little draw on the ball, or hit a straight shot with a square face. Frankly, I'd want 2� closed and work on hitting the ball in the middle of the face. I've been about 4� outside-in almost all my life and find 2� closed on a 48" driver works out very well. I simply learned to close my stance about 4� and have hit the ball straight for the last 50 years...well, usually. :-)   Gear effect, on a wood club with a center of gravity rearward of the face, is caused by hitting the ball offcenter. A hit toward the heel causes the head to rotate counterclickwise (right hand player) around the head's center of gravity and put a gear effect slicing spin on the ball. The bulge on the face directs the ball further to the left, so it will slice back to the target line. A hit toward the toe causes the head to rotate clockwise around the head's cg and puts a hooking gear effect spin on the ball. Again, the bulge directs the ball further to the right so it will hook to the target line.   Bernie Write to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]     ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 11:15 AM Subject: ShopTalk: Closed clubface question This was sent to me by a guy that visited my web site, wonder if anyone can help him with this?? John Thanks so much for replying to a previous query.  If you don't mind, I have another question for you.    I recently had my swing tested.  My driver swing speed is 105, 2 degrees out-to-in, avg swing temp 1.3 sec. According the clubmaker, because of my out-to-in swingpath, the more closed the clubface angle is, the more it will accentuate my slice/fade tendencies, and he insisted I should have a square face angle, or even slightly open.  This seems counter-intuitive (I would have assumed a closed clubface would result in a draw).  He tried to explain it to me--it had to do with the gear effect caused by the manufactured horizontal bulge in the clubhead.  I'm having a heck of time trying to comprehend it--it's beyond me.    I don't expect you to try to explain it to me in any detail.  But I am looking simply to find confirmation, or refutation, of his claim that a closed clubface alignment, paired with my out-to-in swing path tendency, would actually accentuate my slice/fade tendencies. If correct, since most driver heads are closed to some degree, I wonder how much of a closed face angle could still be acceptable?   Really appreciate it.   - Jack Zylla -- Thanks! John Muir http://clubmaker-online.com http://gripscience.com http://elevongolf.com 810.923.7396