I can vouch that my customers as well as myself seem to have a preference
for COG-NBP. Its not that you see a night-day difference, just seems to
limit those odd ball shots, especially it seems in the shorter clubs.



Mark A Patton
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bernie Baymiller
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:52 AM
To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Heavy Putter


Brian,

Some sort of spine alignment has been done since the advent of hickory
shafts, if I remember my golf history correctly. Dick Weiss patented his
METHOD of doing spine alignment, and there are many who would dispute that
patent, though no one has done it so far to my knowledge. In fact, I think
we had discussions on Colin Dick's spinefinders here on Shoptalk before
Weiss's patent was issued. ASD (Advanced Shaft Dynamics) was opened by
Weiss's ex-president, Philip Talamonti, in competition with his old boss,
because he thought Weiss's method was faulty. Vijay Singh is using ASD's
shafts at the moment. http://www.advancedshaft.com/  Vijay certainly gives a
lot of credit to the ASD (super secret) method. Has anyone seen a
description of how he does it?

Meanwhile the amateur FLO and spinefinder advocates continue to dispute each
other in every clubmaking forum on the net. It has been fun to watch and to
participate in all this "tech" stuff. I can tell you that I sure have been
pleased with results matching and aligning shafts on my NF2...with a little
help from the info on John Kaufman's site and DT's comments on the "true"
spine and NBP locatons. Add in Tom Wishon's thoughts on NBP-COG alignment,
and I've built myself the most consistent and accurate set of irons I ever
made...for under $15 a club. That's kind of been my challenge for the last
ten years as a hobbyist clubmaker...make the best performing clubs for the
lowest cost.

Heh, heh...it's so much fun to make clubs for people who have OEM clubs they
can't hit and see them compare my "cheapos" performance to their big bucks
alternatives. Just made a fairway 5W for a reasonably good woman player who
couldn't get her Callaway 5W up in the air (she doesn't play a 3W except off
the tee). Not only is my club better built, she now  hits the ball at the
proper trajectory and gets more distance with a $40 club. (And I made a few
bucks on that one, too.)

Bernie
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From: "Brian Parkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com>
Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Heavy Putter


> That's why no one on this forum checks for spines, because it's been
> patented. (hee hee)
>
> Brian H. Parkinson, CPA
>
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> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:43 AM
> To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Heavy Putter
>
> I'll second that!
>  Pat McGoldrick---On Target Golf LLC
>  Turnersville, NJ
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave Tutelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:06 AM
> Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Heavy Putter
>
>
> > Arnie,
> >
> > Bravo!
> >
> > DaveT
> >
> > At 03:32 AM 2/9/05 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Jeremy,
> > >Don't get upset about the "knockoff" terminology! The cleaned up
version
> > >is parallel technology. Sounds better, and quite high tech! But when
you
> > >ask for specifics about a new product it sure appears that you plan on
> > >using the information to duplicate some aspects of the product without
> > >doing the research and experimentation.
> > >I am involved in several golf industry products with patents and I
would
> > >NEVER provide the type of information you requested! I would simply
sell
> > >the product to you and you can disassemble it to get the information
> > >requested. At least the effort would produce one sale.
> > >I have introduced five products in another industry and have
experienced
> > >the competitive introductions by others who purchased the product I
> worked
> > >on and have spent countless hours with those in the legal profession
> > >fighting the those who produce "similar" products after a successful
> > >introduction.
> > >Even the developer of the heavy putter admits that it will happen.
> > >The key is to sell thousands, bank the profits and have an active
enough
> > >mind to come up with another winning product.
> > >I wish the heavy putter developer that success.
> >
> >
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