Mark, Are you seing more accuracy in the short irons, 8-iron through SW? That's how the NBP-COG alignment worked for me. Used to pull my 9- iron and PW about 5 yards left when I made a reasonably good swing for me and was aimed at the pin. Now, my short irons are right on the stick when I'm on balance, which is not easy for an old man on anti-rejection drugs. :-) The change was kind of startling...worked for the past 5 years to hit straight PW shots with a square stance, which serves me fine with all other irons. On the range before a round, I always hit the first ten or so PW shots left. At first, I checked the PW lie, assuming that was the problem, but it was OK. First time out with my set of irons aligned NBP-COG, the first ten were dead on the 120 flag. That accuracy has continued.
Didn't have as much luck with NBP-COG using large wood heads and senior shafts. Impacts were up and down on the face. So, I tried S1-COG and that seems to work pretty well. Only difference seems to be S1-COG doesn't feel quite as smooth as NBP to target. Also, I've noticed that almost every NF2 (spinefinder) NBP-COG alignment FLOs very well, unless I have trouble locating the NBP on a weird shaft. Do you get FLO with this alignment? Bernie Write to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark A Patton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com> Sent: Saturday, February 12, 2005 9:13 AM Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Heavy Putter > I can vouch that my customers as well as myself seem to have a preference > for COG-NBP. Its not that you see a night-day difference, just seems to > limit those odd ball shots, especially it seems in the shorter clubs. > > > > Mark A Patton > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bernie Baymiller > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 11:52 AM > To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Heavy Putter > > > Brian, > > Some sort of spine alignment has been done since the advent of hickory > shafts, if I remember my golf history correctly. Dick Weiss patented his > METHOD of doing spine alignment, and there are many who would dispute that > patent, though no one has done it so far to my knowledge. In fact, I think > we had discussions on Colin Dick's spinefinders here on Shoptalk before > Weiss's patent was issued. ASD (Advanced Shaft Dynamics) was opened by > Weiss's ex-president, Philip Talamonti, in competition with his old boss, > because he thought Weiss's method was faulty. Vijay Singh is using ASD's > shafts at the moment. http://www.advancedshaft.com/ Vijay certainly gives a > lot of credit to the ASD (super secret) method. Has anyone seen a > description of how he does it? > > Meanwhile the amateur FLO and spinefinder advocates continue to dispute each > other in every clubmaking forum on the net. It has been fun to watch and to > participate in all this "tech" stuff. I can tell you that I sure have been > pleased with results matching and aligning shafts on my NF2...with a little > help from the info on John Kaufman's site and DT's comments on the "true" > spine and NBP locatons. Add in Tom Wishon's thoughts on NBP-COG alignment, > and I've built myself the most consistent and accurate set of irons I ever > made...for under $15 a club. That's kind of been my challenge for the last > ten years as a hobbyist clubmaker...make the best performing clubs for the > lowest cost. > > Heh, heh...it's so much fun to make clubs for people who have OEM clubs they > can't hit and see them compare my "cheapos" performance to their big bucks > alternatives. Just made a fairway 5W for a reasonably good woman player who > couldn't get her Callaway 5W up in the air (she doesn't play a 3W except off > the tee). Not only is my club better built, she now hits the ball at the > proper trajectory and gets more distance with a $40 club. (And I made a few > bucks on that one, too.) > > Bernie > Write to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Brian Parkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com> > Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 10:09 AM > Subject: RE: ShopTalk: Heavy Putter > > > > That's why no one on this forum checks for spines, because it's been > > patented. (hee hee) > > > > Brian H. Parkinson, CPA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On > > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 9:43 AM > > To: ShopTalk@mail.msen.com > > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Heavy Putter > > > > I'll second that! > > Pat McGoldrick---On Target Golf LLC > > Turnersville, NJ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dave Tutelman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <ShopTalk@mail.msen.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 8:06 AM > > Subject: Re: ShopTalk: Heavy Putter > > > > > > > Arnie, > > > > > > Bravo! > > > > > > DaveT > > > > > > At 03:32 AM 2/9/05 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >Jeremy, > > > >Don't get upset about the "knockoff" terminology! The cleaned up > version > > > >is parallel technology. Sounds better, and quite high tech! But when > you > > > >ask for specifics about a new product it sure appears that you plan on > > > >using the information to duplicate some aspects of the product without > > > >doing the research and experimentation. > > > >I am involved in several golf industry products with patents and I > would > > > >NEVER provide the type of information you requested! I would simply > sell > > > >the product to you and you can disassemble it to get the information > > > >requested. At least the effort would produce one sale. > > > >I have introduced five products in another industry and have > experienced > > > >the competitive introductions by others who purchased the product I > > worked > > > >on and have spent countless hours with those in the legal profession > > > >fighting the those who produce "similar" products after a successful > > > >introduction. > > > >Even the developer of the heavy putter admits that it will happen. > > > >The key is to sell thousands, bank the profits and have an active > enough > > > >mind to come up with another winning product. > > > >I wish the heavy putter developer that success. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/05 > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.7 - Release Date: 2/10/2005 > >
