Ahh, yes, I didn't even think about the udp part. Of course I don't
have udp rules for my ftp rules.

On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:17 AM, Andrew Suffield
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:07:35AM -0700, Tom Eastep wrote:
>  > Brad Bendily wrote:
>  >>>  > Or just write out the line in full in your rules file. I've never been
>  >>>  > very impressed with one-line macros, they don't really accomplish
>  >>>  > anything that /etc/services doesn't already do.
>  >>>
>  >>>  I never use them either. But I see a lot of this sort of thing from 
> people
>  >>>  who use /etc/services without having any other clues:
>  >>>
>  >>>  ACCEPT  net     fw      tcp     21
>  >>>  ACCEPT  net     fw      udp     21
>  >>>
>  >>>  Of course these same users are also likely to include:
>  >>>
>  >>>  ACCEPT  net     fw      tcp     20
>  >>>  ACCEPT  net     fw      udp     20
>  >>>
>  >>>  Ignorance of how things work is rampant...
>  >>
>  >> trying to avoid ignorance here, are you saying that the above rules are 
> bad?
>  >
>  > Three of them are. FTP uses TCP exclusively, so the two UDP rules are
>  > senseless. And FTP uses port 20 as the SOURCE port for new active-mode
>  > connections, so listing it in the DEST PORT(S) column is also silly.
>
>  UDP 21 is actually the common port for the obsolete (and resoundingly
>  stupid) FSP. Not that anybody should be using it.
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