> It depends on whether you have Shorewall-init installed. Since you
> aren't beating on me about it's shortcomings, I assume that you have not
> installed that package.
>   
Hehe, I am not that bad! You are right, though, I don't have it 
installed - I just use shorewall.

>> If I want to "cheat" (as I often do!) I could artificially "open" tun0,
>> start shorewall and then close that device. What would happen then (if
>> anything)?
>>     
>
> Nothing, unless you are running Shorewall-init.
>   
Maybe then shorewall shouldn't place such restrictions in this case - 
the device traffic shaping rules are "ignored" by shorewall if the 
device in question is not "present" (or up) and if that doesn't actually 
matter (which I presumed was the case as I was able to "bypass" 
shorewall completely and recreate those policies using iptables/tc 
without the device being "present") this restriction should be removed.

To "force" shorewall to apply my traffic shaping policies for this 
device I currently have to run a separate program in rc.sysinit to bring 
the tun0 device into existence (and up), then let shorewall do its work, 
after which I close the device in rc.local.

If there is no need for this restriction, then it should be removed.

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