>> Bugger! So, I would need that device to stay open (i.e. UP) at all times
>> to preserve everything created by shorewall, is that it? What about if I
>> place it in up state, but do not give it a real IP address (yet)?
>>
>>     
>
> Without an IP address, there can be no routes out of the device.
>   
I am aware of that, but at least the tc classes will be preserved, right?

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