Shorewall (and Shorewall6) has been fantastic to me, as a multi-ISP user.  I'm deeply indebted to Tom for this fantastic tool, and all the work he put into the documentation especially. Nothing else seems to come close to ease-of-configuration and maintenance.  I'm dreading the day when Debian (or the kernel itself) moves iptables from deprecated to discarded, and I know that nftables is the future, but I'm still yet waiting for something that even comes close before I risk destablizing everything my home system relies upon.  Tom, if you're reading this, can I ask - are you still running your own systems, and what you expect to be shifting to yourself?

(Speaking as someone who started on ipfwadm, then ipchains).

On 2025-02-06 12:57, Phil Stracchino wrote:
On 2/6/25 10:28, Sam wrote:

I think the bigger issue is that Shorewall is more of an iptables
configuration tool. And iptables is now deprecated.

Then what is needed is perhaps a project to update shorewall to emit the CURRENT flavor of Linux firewalling rules.  (One that **does not** depend on systemd.)




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