It may seem like a stupid question (again, I don't know docker) but, are the VMs' virtual network interfaces, and the host's network interface, in the same zone?

On 2025-03-20 4:19 a.m., Sean Murphy via Shorewall-users wrote:
Thanks Winston - I had hoped to avoid getting my hands dirty with tcpdump but it
looks like I might have to. Do you find it straightforward to track movements 
through
the chains and tables with tcpdump?

The client runs in a docker container - my main objective is to use curl from 
within a docker
container as the client and a http server running on the host but I've also 
been trying it
out with and ssh client and a ping client (both working inside the container).

We have basically 3 zones: the firewall zone, the network zone and the docker 
zone.
The firewall zone is as defined by shorewall. The network zone refers to 
traffic on the
(single) network interface and the docker zone refer to traffic originating and 
terminating
on the docker bridge.

Thanks for any insights.

BR,
Sean.


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Normally I'd start with tcpdump as the lowest-level tracing tool, but
first I'd want to know a bit more about your scenario. Instead of using
"host" and "docker" terminology (I am not familiar with docker, so I am
not sure if you are implying a VM trying to communicate with the
underlying host), could you perhaps re-frame your question with "client"
and "server" and explain which are in which zones (and networks)?  Or
are the client and server on the same host?

On 2025-03-19 05:49, Sean Murphy via Shorewall-users wrote:
Hi all,,

We have been (ab)using shorewall for some years now and we're v happy with it -
thanks everyone and Tom in particular for such a great tool.

We have been using it to manage security for a set of VMs running applications
with docker-compose. Almost all of our hosts have a single external network
interface; this is perhaps not the use case for which shorewall was designed
but it has been working for us so far.

We now have a scenario which is proving more difficult: we want to access a
service running on a host from within a container.

We have tried the most open configuration possible - a policy with all:all
ACCEPT and no rules; it seems the service is accessible from anywhere except
inside the docker container.

Accessing the service from inside the container results in timeouts, so 
presumably
the packets are being dropped somewhere. We tried ping, ssh (on standard ports)
and an http service running on a high port number.

Zone configuration:
root@dhit-disposable01:/etc/shorewall# cat zones
###############################################################################
#ZONE           TYPE      OPTIONS                 IN                      OUT
#                                                 OPTIONS                 
OPTIONS
fw              firewall
net             ipv4
dock            ipv4

Interface configuration:
root@dhit-disposable01:/etc/shorewall# cat interfaces
###############################################################################
?FORMAT 2
###############################################################################
#ZONE   INTERFACE                 OPTIONS
net     eth                       physical=eth+,dhcp,nosmurfs
net     en                        physical=en+,dhcp,nosmurfs
dock    docker0                   physical=docker+,routeback=1
dock    br                        physical=br-+,routeback=1

Policy configuration:
root@dhit-disposable01:/etc/shorewall# cat policy
#SOURCE        DEST        POLICY      LOGLEVEL    LIMIT
all            all         ACCEPT

Rules configuration:
root@dhit-disposable01:/etc/shorewall# cat rules
#ACTION      SOURCE                  DEST       PROTO      DPORT
# No rules

Docker configuration as per shorewall.conf
root@dhit-disposable01:/etc/shorewall# grep -i docker shorewall.conf
# Default shorewall config, except for DOCKER=Yes (and this comment).
DOCKER=Yes
DOCKER_BRIDGE=docker0

I did shorewall compile, safe-reload and then restarted the docker deamon but
the packets still seem to be being dropped. I tried iptables-tracer [1] to get 
some
info on where they disappear and it seems packets are being dropped on the
return path.

I checked the documentation and could not find any answer in the FAQs. I
could not generate a shorewall dump as we are using journald rather than
syslog and it's unclear to me how such a dump can be generated in this case.

Happy to provide further information as required.

Any thoughts/pointers appreciated...

Best rgds,
Sean.

[1] https://github.com/x-way/iptables-tracer

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