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From: Peter DO Smith <[email protected]>
Date: Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Shotwell] XCF / Versioning support?
To: Adam Dingle <[email protected]>

Sorry, this should have gone to the mailing list

Adam, re the versioning issue you might want to take a look at NILFS, a
continuous snapshotting system developed by NEC. It is now included in the
kernel. I have used it, with some success, as the basis for a versioning
system for documentation in the pharmaceutical industry.

regards, Peter


On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Adam Dingle <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 09/01/2010 04:02 PM, e.m.fields wrote:
> > Hi. Ubuntu user, I've been running around trying to nail down which of
> the
> > photomanager applications can suit my needs, between f-spot and digikam.
> > Checking out shotwell now, as it's moving to standard in 10.10 "Maverick"
> > release.  Looks good.
> >
>
> Hello!
>
> > Main feature requests that I've found has (too late) been added in F-spot
> is
> > the much-needed XCF support, as well as decent versioning system for
> images,
> > and file-folder monitoring.  I would like to know if these exist in
> > shotwell, or if plans to do so are in near-future.
> >
> > 1. XCF support
> > XCF is the native GIMP image editor image format, necessary for users who
> > rely heavily on this standard linux application.
> > i . Make sure that shotwell is able to index and view XCF files.
> > ii. Make an edit in gimp, export as JPEG/PNG and have this edit added to
> > shotwell
> > iii. Open in GIMP for an edit, and save as XCF, and have this edit added
> to
> > shotwell.
> >
>
> Shotwell has no support for XCF today.  Regarding your question (ii):
> Shotwell can open a photo in an external editor, and if you open a JPEG
> photo in GIMP from within Shotwell and save your changes in JPEG format,
> Shotwell will notice the change and update its thumbnails.  (If you open
> the photo from GIMP *outside* Shotwell and save, then Shotwell 0.7 will
> not notice the change, but the trunk build will since we've implemented
> this recently.)
>
> I've just added a ticket for us to support XCF format (and/or its
> possible successor, OpenRaster): http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2509 .
> This is probably not near the top of our priority list for the next
> couple of releases, but patches are gladly accepted!  :)
>
> > 2. Versioning
> > F-spot has a great versioning system, and digikam has moved in this
> > direction as well.  Multiple versions of one image can be "stacked" on
> top
> > of the original, and user can select between versions, as well as
> designate
> > new images as versions of another.
> > i. Does versioning exist in shotwell?
> >
> > ii. Can other files be added and linked as a version of the same image?
> >
>
> Shotwell's versioning system today is primitive.  Each photo essentially
> has two versions: the original and the edited version (which
> incorporates both external edits and edits performed within Shotwell).
> You can view the original version of any photo by pressing the Shift key
> within Shotwell, and the Revert to Original command reverts back to the
> original version.
>
> We've thought about more complex versioning schemes and are potentially
> open to those, though it's very important to us to keep the user
> experience simple, so we've made no decisions about this.  See
> http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2474 .
>
>
> > 3. Filesystem folder monitoring
> > A big feature request, and I think people would really agree with me here
> > after experiencing it -
> > Monitoring of folders, aka "Watching folders for new images".
> > use case: I add an image to a folder designated as a "watched folder" in
> > shotwell, and shotwell automatically recognizes and imports this image on
> > next startup.  HUGELY important if you're going to be shifting around
> your
> > image files in any other way, which is one of my  biggest gripes with
> > F-Spot.
> > i. Does it exist for shotwell?
> >
> > ii. Are there any plans for adding this in the future?
> >
>
> Folder monitoring is not in 0.7, but we've just implemented this in the
> trunk, so it will be in 0.8.  Note that we auto-import from the library
> directory only.  I hope that in a future release we'll support multiple
> watched folders.
>
> If you want to try this in the trunk, you need to specify --auto-import
> on the command line when you run Shotwell (this option will go away
> soon).  See http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2478 .
>
> cheers
> adam
>
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