On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Jim Nelson <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi Kent,
>
> Importing has some caveats, as you're noticing.
>
> On Thu, Sep 23, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Kent Tenney <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to figure out Shotwell's world view.
>>
>> If I choose "copy" when importing, the path of the original is
>> lost and replaced with a path based on date.
>
> It's not really lost, it's just that it's exactly what it sounds like:
> Shotwell makes a copy of the file in your XDG Pictures directory (probably
> ~/Pictures) and imports that into its library.

Right, but the _path_ of the original seems lost, the files location in
the hfs.

>
>>
>> I won't be copying, the path structure has meaning and I
>> don't want it discarded.
>>
>
> Then you want to link rather than copy.
>
>>
>> If Shotwell detects a duplicate file it is ignored.
>>
>
> That's correct.
>
>>
>> I can see this makes sense if copying, not so much if linking.
>>
>
> It depends; I think what you're suggesting is that duplicate detection
> should only be used to prevent a file copy.  There are other import
> scenarios, particularly importing from a camera or an SD card.

Right, my wife's collection is a nightmare of duplication, however
her workflow would prefer copying, and dupe ignoring would be great.

>
>>
>> I would prefer if Shotwell didn't have an opinion on what files to
>> ignore, and photo.db represented an accurate representation
>> of my collection. Some of my duplicates are mistakes and I'd
>> like Shotwell to help me weed, other dupes are for a reason.
>>
>> Does this sound reasonable?
>
> It does, but I think I'd like to get a clearer picture of when Shotwell
> should use duplicate detection and when it shouldn't

I'd rephrase "dupe detection" to "ignore dupes"

I guess it would consist of a preference:
ignore duplicates when linking: yes/no

I would choose "no"

I have dupes in my collection which are not mistakes, they are
the same file, but live in different contexts.

(in your view, at
> least), and how it's presented to the user.  For example, how would Shotwell
> help you weed them out (beyond just showing you the same photo twice or more
> in your collection).

If I was looking at one of the collection views which included a file which
existed in multiple locations, I might expect to see:

- multiple stars under the thumb, one for each copy found
- a link which would bring up a listbox with absolute filenames
- some distinguishing feature, maybe just a different border color

If dupes were allowed, a view named "Duplicates" would show thumbs
of all files which live in more than one directory.

I am very interested in Shotwell's photo.db file.
My plan is to scratch some of my particular itches with Python, drawing on the
data in photo.db, so I want it to accurately reflect my directory structure.

Thanks,
Kent

>
> -- Jim
>
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