Hi Adam,

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 06:03:14 -0700, Adam Dingle wrote:

Your backporting efforts are impressive - it's clear that some users
are interested in running newer versions of Shotwell on Lucid and this
is helping them out, so thanks.

Thanks, I've only been doing the packaging and PPA thing for a couple of days. So far, so good :-)

I am curious, however: why are you and others so interested in
continuing to run Lucid rather than simply updating to Maverick?  Is
it because Lucid is marked as a long-term-support release, or because
there was some change in Maverick you didn't like, or something else?
 Obviously everyone's situation is unique, but Ubuntu has made it
pretty painless to upgrade so I'm honestly a little surprised that so
many people who want to use the very latest Shotwell releases want to
hold back on upgrading Ubuntu itself.

When the first Ubuntu LTS release came along I conveniently forgot everything I knew about Windows and as family members wanted their computers fixing they were migrated to Ubunutu LTS ;-) My family members only run the current LTS, therefore they are all on Lucid. I always run the current release, so I am now on Maverick and soon to be Natty.

My wife and I have a shared Dropbox account into which I have sym-linked ~/.shotwell so we can share the same photo album database and both add new pictures of our daughter to a shared Shotwell installation. This works great, right up to the point I upgraded to Maverick and got Shotwell 0.8.1 and my wife was still running 0.7.2. Database breakage :-(

So my motivation for back porting Shotwell was to save my marriage ;-) I also did it because I was interested to learn the back porting process and I thought a Lucid version of Shotwell would be of value to other Lucid users. When I saw that ticket saying it wasn't simple I thought that was challenge enough to have a go :-) I love Shotwell and wanted to give a little something back so I asked the nice people at OMG! Ubuntu! to post an article about my Shortwell 0.8.1 back port and they duely obliged.

- http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/shotwell-0-8-1-for-ubuntu-10-04-lucid-users/

I also set the desktop standards at my work. Our workstation policy is LTS, so everyone is on Lucid. I imagine other organisations do the same.

Shotwell only requires libraw 0.9.  We encourage people to use newer
libraw releases, though, since there have been many improvements and
bug fixes since 0.9.

I've back ported libraw 0.13.1 from Debian Wheezy and am waiting on the outcome of the following ticket before I release a non-experimental Shotwell 0.9.0 build based on a newer libraw library.

  - http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2583

I have built svn 2775 of Shotwell for Lucid earlier today and libraw 0.13.1 builds for Lucid, Maverick and Natty. They are all currently sitting in my Experimental PPA.

 - https://launchpad.net/~flexiondotorg/+archive/experimental

Todays build of Shotwell now uses the Vala Team PPA as a build dependency since they've now published 0.11.7 so no need to maintain my own back port any longer. I believe it would be trivial for the Yorba PPA to provide Lucid versions of Shotwell 0.9.0 when you release it. I'd be glad to help with that if required.

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Regards, Martin.
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