Hi Clinton, Thank you for your reply. Sorry I am slow in responding to your E-Mail as we are travelling. However, I am going to give Shotwell a try with my laptop. I brought my photos with me, so will have a huge pile to try it out. I will give feedback on my experience with it, and also will likely need lots of help. I will also give my impressions compared to KPhotoAlbum (when it was working; right now, I am unable to use it at all as it crashes as soon as I load my photos and try to view all the thumbnails).
I sent a copy of this to [email protected] -- is this proper procedure or not? I will start by importing all my photographs "in place". This will take a while. I will then try some of the things you described. In the meantime, I do have another question: Is it possible to have more than one Shotwell Library (you cannot do so in KPhotoAlbum, and that is a nuisance). Where is the meta data stored by Shotwell? Thanks, Murray Strome --- On Sun, 4/24/11, Clinton Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: From: Clinton Rogers <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Shotwell] Newbie Questions about Shotwell To: "Murray Strome" <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Received: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 11:54 AM Hi Murray, If you do decide to give Shotwell a go, we'd love to have you as part of our community. Most of the features you want exist already, and we hope to add the rest in future releases. > 1. KPhotoAlbum does not make any copies of the photos in its > albums. It leaves the images where they are. However, you can > invoke an external program to modify a photo (e.g. the GIMP) from > within KPhotoAlbum. Shotwell can do both of these; when first importing your images, choose 'Import in place', and to edit an image, secondary-click on it in Shotwell, then choose 'Open in external editor'. > 2. It is very easy, in KPA to see where the image is located on the > hard drive, and to view the full EXIF data, if it exists. Photos > can be organized by "date picture taken", which is what I want as > edited photos often get their "created" and "modified" dates > altered (this is especially troublesome sometimes with Picassa). I > could not figure out how to do this easily. Currently, Shotwell displays path and EXIF details in a separate popup, and while it isn't quite as close at hand, it is never more than a menu click away. We hope to make it dockable at some point; please see http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2779. > 3. KPA displays RAW images (in my case, .PEF from my Pentax > DSLR) Shotwell has raw image support as well; because we use LibRaw, we can load any format it can, including .PEF, as far as I know. > 4. A feature which i just discovered in KPA is that, in the viewer, > similar images may be "Stacked" and the one on top can be > specified. This is especially useful when I have a RAW (.PEF) image > which I have edited and We don't have stacks yet, but we hope to add this soon; please see http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2090. > Of somewhat lower priority for me (although in principle, I should > be using it), you can tag or categorize images... > Is anything like this available in Shotwell? Shotwell has support for tagging images, but it isn't yet hierarchical. This is a high-priority feature for us, though - please have a look at http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/1401. > Another nice feature of KPA is that you can copy a bunch of photos > from your hard drive to a CD or DVD (or an external drive or > another computer). You can then delete them from your hard drive. > The thumbnails and all the annotation information can be retained > in your album, along with the location where you have put the > images. I have not seen this feature in any other photo > organization software. Do you have this? Shotwell isn't currently capable of moving its image library around like this, although it can store tags and other metadata in the images themselves, so they can be exported to other media and reimported elsewhere with all their details intact. Shotwell cannot yet burn discs, but we do hope to add this soon. Thank you for your interest in Shotwell! Cheers, -c On 4/24/11, Murray Strome <[email protected]> wrote: > Although I REALLY like the features of KPhotoAlbum, I am about to give up on > it because of instability problems. I hear that ShotWell is supposed to be > very stable, However, I cannot figure out if it has the key features that I > need. I have not been able to figure this out yet from trying the program, > nor from what I have been able to find by searching the internet. Perhaps > someone on the list could help me. > > 1. KPhotoAlbum does not make any copies of the photos in its albums. It > leaves the images where they are. However, you can invoke an external > program to modify a photo (e.g. the GIMP) from within KPhotoAlbum. This is > very handy. > > 2. It is very easy, in KPA to see where the image is located on the hard > drive, and to view the full EXIF data, if it exists. Photos can be organized > by "date picture taken", which is what I want as edited photos often get > their "created" and "modified" dates altered (this is especially troublesome > sometimes with Picassa). I could not figure out how to do this easily. In > KPA, if you just mouse over an image in the viewer, on the bottom of the > window, you can see the full path to the original image. > > 3. KPA displays RAW images (in my case, .PEF from my Pentax DSLR) > > 4. A feature which i just discovered in KPA is that, in the viewer, similar > images may be "Stacked" and the one on top can be specified. This is > especially useful when I have a RAW (.PEF) image which I have edited and > saved as a JPEG image. I would normally have the edited .jpg image on top > and the .PEF image hidden behind it. You can easily see in the viewer which > images are actually stacks, and you can "unstack" any of these to view all > the photos in the stack. > > -- > Of somewhat lower priority for me (although in principle, I should be using > it), you can tag or categorize images by many different things (which you > can define). For example, you can annotate images to define the people it > contains, the event, the location, plus any other number of categories. > Within a category, you may have unlimited sub-categories. For example, in > People, you might have categories for Friends and Family. Then within > Family, you could have your parents, and as subcategories your sibings, then > their children as subcategories for each of them, etc. Similarly for Places, > you could have Continent, Country, Region, City, location within the city > etc. Is anything like this available in Shotwell? > > Another nice feature of KPA is that you can copy a bunch of photos from your > hard drive to a CD or DVD (or an external drive or another computer). You > can then delete them from your hard drive. The thumbnails and all the > annotation information can be retained in your album, along with the > location where you have put the images. I have not seen this feature in any > other photo organization software. Do you have this? > _______________________________________________ > Shotwell mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell > _______________________________________________ Shotwell mailing list [email protected] http://lists.yorba.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/shotwell
