Hi Murray, > I sent a copy of this to [email protected] -- is > this proper procedure or not?
That is indeed the proper procedure -- and usually the best way to get Shotwell help in a hurry! > Is it possible to have more than one Shotwell > Library (you cannot do so in KPhotoAlbum, > and that is a nuisance) In a sense, yes. You can use the -d argument when starting Shotwell to tell it to use a different directory to store its thumbnails and its internal database. You can't, however, configure Shotwell itself -- say through the preferences dialog -- to reference multiple libraries. > Where is the meta data stored by Shotwell? Shotwell stores all tag, rating, event and photo transformation information in an internal SQLite database. It's located at ~/.shotwell/data/photo.db (assuming you haven't pointed it somewhere else by starting Shotwell with the -d option). If you want to, however, you can configure Shotwell to continuously write tag, title, and rating information, etc., to the IPTC/XMP/EXIF metadata fields in the backing photo files. You enable this behavior by choosing Edit > Preferences and checking the "Write tags, titles, and other metadata to photo files" checkbox. I hope you enjoy your Shotwell explorations! Cheers, Lucas On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Murray Strome <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Clinton, > > Thank you for your reply. Sorry I am slow in responding to your E-Mail as we > are travelling. However, I am going to give Shotwell a try with my laptop. I > brought my photos with me, so will have a huge pile to try it out. I will > give feedback on my experience with it, and also will likely need lots of > help. I will also give my impressions compared to KPhotoAlbum (when it was > working; right now, I am unable to use it at all as it crashes as soon as I > load my photos and try to view all the thumbnails). > > I sent a copy of this to [email protected] -- is this proper procedure > or not? > > I will start by importing all my photographs "in place". This will take a > while. > > I will then try some of the things you described. In the meantime, I do have > another question: Is it possible to have more than one Shotwell Library (you > cannot do so in KPhotoAlbum, and that is a nuisance). Where is the meta data > stored by Shotwell? > > Thanks, > > Murray Strome > > --- On Sun, 4/24/11, Clinton Rogers <[email protected]> wrote: > > From: Clinton Rogers <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Shotwell] Newbie Questions about Shotwell > To: "Murray Strome" <[email protected]> > Cc: [email protected] > Received: Sunday, April 24, 2011, 11:54 AM > > Hi Murray, > > If you do decide to give Shotwell a go, we'd love to have you as part > of our community. Most of the features you want exist already, and we > hope to add the rest in future releases. > >> 1. KPhotoAlbum does not make any copies of the photos in its >> albums. It leaves the images where they are. However, you can >> invoke an external program to modify a photo (e.g. the GIMP) from >> within KPhotoAlbum. > > Shotwell can do both of these; when first importing your images, > choose 'Import in place', and to edit an image, secondary-click on it > in Shotwell, then choose 'Open in external editor'. > >> 2. It is very easy, in KPA to see where the image is located on the >> hard drive, and to view the full EXIF data, if it exists. Photos >> can be organized by "date picture taken", which is what I want as >> edited photos often get their "created" and "modified" dates >> altered (this is especially troublesome sometimes with Picassa). I >> could not figure out how to do this easily. > > Currently, Shotwell displays path and EXIF details in a separate > popup, and while it isn't quite as close at hand, it is never more > than a menu click away. We hope to make it dockable at some point; > please see http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2779. > >> 3. KPA displays RAW images (in my case, .PEF from my Pentax >> DSLR) > > Shotwell has raw image support as well; because we use LibRaw, we can > load any format it can, including .PEF, as far as I know. > >> 4. A feature which i just discovered in KPA is that, in the viewer, >> similar images may be "Stacked" and the one on top can be >> specified. This is especially useful when I have a RAW (.PEF) image >> which I have edited and > > We don't have stacks yet, but we hope to add this soon; please see > http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/2090. > >> Of somewhat lower priority for me (although in principle, I should >> be using it), you can tag or categorize images... >> Is anything like this available in Shotwell? > > Shotwell has support for tagging images, but it isn't yet > hierarchical. This is a high-priority feature for us, though - please > have a look at http://trac.yorba.org/ticket/1401. > >> Another nice feature of KPA is that you can copy a bunch of photos >> from your hard drive to a CD or DVD (or an external drive or >> another computer). You can then delete them from your hard drive. >> The thumbnails and all the annotation information can be retained >> in your album, along with the location where you have put the >> images. I have not seen this feature in any other photo >> organization software. Do you have this? > > Shotwell isn't currently capable of moving its image library around > like this, although it can store tags and other metadata in the images > themselves, so they can be exported to other media and reimported > elsewhere with all their details intact. Shotwell cannot yet burn > discs, but we do hope to add this soon. > > Thank you for your interest in Shotwell! > > Cheers, > -c > > On 4/24/11, Murray Strome <[email protected]> wrote: >> Although I REALLY like the features of KPhotoAlbum, I am about to give up on >> it because of instability problems. I hear that ShotWell is supposed to be >> very stable, However, I cannot figure out if it has the key features that I >> need. I have not been able to figure this out yet from trying the program, >> nor from what I have been able to find by searching the internet. Perhaps >> someone on the list could help me. >> >> 1. KPhotoAlbum does not make any copies of the photos in its albums. It >> leaves the images where they are. However, you can invoke an external >> program to modify a photo (e.g. the GIMP) from within KPhotoAlbum. This is >> very handy. >> >> 2. It is very easy, in KPA to see where the image is located on the hard >> drive, and to view the full EXIF data, if it exists. Photos can be organized >> by "date picture taken", which is what I want as edited photos often get >> their "created" and "modified" dates altered (this is especially troublesome >> sometimes with Picassa). I could not figure out how to do this easily. In >> KPA, if you just mouse over an image in the viewer, on the bottom of the >> window, you can see the full path to the original image. >> >> 3. KPA displays RAW images (in my case, .PEF from my Pentax DSLR) >> >> 4. A feature which i just discovered in KPA is that, in the viewer, similar >> images may be "Stacked" and the one on top can be specified. This is >> especially useful when I have a RAW (.PEF) image which I have edited and >> saved as a JPEG image. I would normally have the edited .jpg image on top >> and the .PEF image hidden behind it. You can easily see in the viewer which >> images are actually stacks, and you can "unstack" any of these to view all >> the photos in the stack. >> >> -- >> Of somewhat lower priority for me (although in principle, I should be using >> it), you can tag or categorize images by many different things (which you >> can define). For example, you can annotate images to define the people it >> contains, the event, the location, plus any other number of categories. >> Within a category, you may have unlimited sub-categories. For example, in >> People, you might have categories for Friends and Family. Then within >> Family, you could have your parents, and as subcategories your sibings, then >> their children as subcategories for each of them, etc. Similarly for Places, >> you could have Continent, Country, Region, City, location within the city >> etc. Is anything like this available in Shotwell? >> >> Another nice feature of KPA is that you can copy a bunch of photos from your >> hard drive to a CD or DVD (or an external drive or another computer). You >> can then delete them from your hard drive. The thumbnails and all the >> annotation information can be retained in your album, along with the >> location where you have put the images. I have not seen this feature in any >> other photo organization software. 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