>>>>     as a vendor friend says, if ipv6 deploys, insha allah, we're gonna
>>>>     be upgrading those routers to do real v6 forwarding.  if it does not
>>>>     deploy, you will be deploying massively bigger boxes to nat your ass
>>>>     into hell.
>>>
>>> There are two possible results, it seems to me:
>>>
>>> 1. The cost of deploying IPv6 will "bury" the cost of doing BGPsec, so
>>> that BGPsec essentially becomes "free" in the IPv6 upgrade.
>>>
>>> 2. The cost of deploying BGPsec will be significant enough that it can't
>>> be "buried," in any other costs.
>>>
>>> The question is --which is true?
>> 
>> as i have no data, any guess i make would be bullshit, would it not?
> 
> Does anyone have the data needed to answer which is true? My guess is
> based on the cost of hardware in general --even small hardware costs
> don't normally end up being "swamped"-- and the cost of network
> convergence times, etc.
> 
> Using different assumptions, you can come to different conclusions. I
> don't know how you can build a study that would tell you which set of
> assumptions is "correct."
> 
> OTOH, it would be interesting to try.

gambatte!

i am hoping to find time to try some simpler things.

randy
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