I do have one question about this draft.  In looking at all of the requirements 
for BGPSec, are AS migration scenarios in- or out-of-scope for BGPSec?  IOW, 
when one SP (AS A) buys/merges with another SP (AS B) what typically happens is 
they will consolidate to a single ASN, e.g.: either AS A or AS B.  The primary 
goal is to (try to) do that rapidly _without_ requiring /any/ coordination and 
as little disruption as possible across a very large set of the SP's customers. 
 As such, several years ago [several] vendors have implemented features that 
satisfy this requirement:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/12_3t/12_3t11/feature/guide/gtbgpdas.html
http://www.juniper.net/techpubs/en_US/junos11.3/topics/reference/configuration-statement/local-as-edit-protocols-bgp.html

There are several permutations of the aforementioned feature; however, the 
overall goal of these features is to NOT alter the AS_PATH length, either on 
receipt or transmission of the AS_PATH (during the length of time of the 
migration), since AS_PATH length plays a crucial role in BGP's path selection 
algorithm and, ultimately, the amount of traffic sent or received to that SP.

I am unaware of any draft or RFC within the IETF that one could refer to with 
more detail on the above features, but I may be misinformed.  However, I will 
state (emphatically) that these features are currently being used now and will 
continue to be used in the future.

If ASN migrations are not going to be accounted for in BGPSEC, then would it be 
prudent to explicitly say so in Req #3.4 wrt "operational considerations for 
deployment" in the "e.g." part:
---snip---
   3.4   A BGPsec design MUST provide analysis of the operational
         considerations for deployment and particularly of incremental
         deployment, e.g, contiguous islands, non-contiguous islands,
         universal deployment, etc..
---snip---

Thanks,

-shane



On Oct 28, 2011, at 12:40 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> Seems that the authors, at least, expect this doc to be prepared for
> WGLC, could we do that concluding 11/11/11 please?
> 
> Draft link: <http://tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs/>
>   01 link: <http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs>
>  diff link: 
> <http://tools.ietf.org/wg/sidr/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs/draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-reqs-01-from-00.diff.html>
> 
> Abstract:
> "This document describes requirements for a future BGP security
>   protocol design to provide cryptographic assurance that the origin AS
>   had the right to announce the prefix and to provide assurance of the
>   AS Path of the announcement."
> 
> Thanks!
> -Chris
> <wg-co-chair-haircut == completed>
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