On 1/24/14, 10:04 AM, "Warren Kumari" <[email protected]> wrote:


>Would simply:
>"issues of business relationship conformance (of which routing 'leaks'
>are a subset), while important to operators, are outside the scope of
>this document.”
>
>cover things well enough?

It would at least address the concern about declaring them not to be
security concerns, and is enough for the intro, IMO

>
>>My issue with this text is the reason it provides as to why they’re
>> considered out of scope. I don’t think that it’s entirely accurate to
>> assert that route leaks are not security issues. While not all route
>>leaks
>> are security issues, some are. It would be more accurate to reflect the
>> discussion that led us to the conclusion that we can’t secure them
>>because
>> we don’t know what “them” is yet, and are awaiting GROW to define them
>>in
>> such a way so that we can evaluate if it’s even possible to secure them
>>in
>> this framework. That may be a longer discussion that doesn’t belong in
>>the
>> intro, I don’t know.
>>
>
>I suspect it is. It somewhat seems like a non-terminating discussion....

I think it might be appropriate to add a new req in the form of req 3.3 to
explain why this is out of scope, or bolster 3.22 to expand on intent as
it relates to this, perhaps with some reference to the fact that route
leaks are currently not well-enough defined to consistently (and more
importantly, systematically) identify them and secure the right BGP
attributes to help prevent them

Thanks
Wes


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