>>> The question was about why, in this effort, we are using 3779
>>> validation rules
>> because we understand how they work formally from considerable
>> experience with PKIs.  they are deployed and working today.
> Well ok. Where else are the 3779 rules used?

the validation for 3779 is essentially the same as for X.509, a rigid
hierarchy.  some do not like different aspects of that rigidity, i am
among them, but for different aspects than this one.

>> the wg is considering an other validation process.  it is still a bit
>> wobbly, and the need for it is poorly motivated.  if you remember, i
>> advocated looking at this as a work item, and came up with the one
>> rather subtle motivation for it.
> I’m not seeing the relevance of this history lesson to the question
> that was asked. How does this relate to the technical reasons of why
> we are using 3779 rules?

because they are working.  you are proposing a change to a deployed
rfc.  what is the motivation for the change?  be technically explicit.

the point of the history lesson of the rirs blocking the definition and
documentation of transfer is that it seems to be the only serious reason
for the change those very same rirs are proposing.  so, if you want your
proposal to change rfced running code to be taken seriously, you had
best document it technically, not just throw perjoratives and hyperbole.

once again, i was the first (non author) to advocate the wg working on
this, and did put up one very subtle possible motivation.  unlike the
rir mafia, i am not threatening to hold my breath until i am blue if it
gets consensus (or not); my youngest grandchild has grown past that
phase.  i just want clear and well-understood technical reasons for a
change to deployed running documented code that seems to be working.

>> to paraphrase, C’mon Andy. You're better than this.
> Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. I’m now thinking about
> shaving off my beard. ;)

not likely.  the last time i was beardless jack kennedy was president.
i do not change running beard without a sound technical reason.  otoh,
if you can document how i can transfer to a 27 year old body, we would
likely have a deal.

randy

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