Marcos

Thank you for your advice, I will stick to the same compiler in future
calculation.
The compiler and compilation options are exactly the same. Have you ever
calculate such a small current before? I doubt it's because the current too
small and my "DM.Tolerance =0.005 "setting is too large. I will improve the
accuracy and see the results.

Now I am quite confused in the TS.TBT.NEigen and TS.TBT.Eta setting.
My electrodes is 6 Cu(111) atoms and the TS.TBT.NEigen is 3, is it too
small?
How to choose the TS.TBT.NEigen value , since the User's guide has little
introduction about it.
And what is TS.TBT.Eta mean? How it effect the results?
Thanks!

Holin Chen

2010/10/1 Marcos Veríssimo Alves <[email protected]>

> Chen,
>
> Apart from the processors being different in the bits, is the compiler
> exactly the same (I mean, same version for the compiler and libraries)? If
> so, are the compilation options the same in both clusters? If the answer to
> the two previous questions is yes, then it might be a matter of the
> precision in the representation of data in both clusters **due to the
> compiler you are using**, i.e., caused by the use of a different bit
> precision. I say "might" because I don't remember having tested this sort of
> thing before - luckily I always had access to the same kind of machines when
> it came to bit precision.
>
> I know that different compilers (different meaning ifort, pathscale and
> xlf90, for example) could give you slightly different final results, and
> then it is best to stick to the same compiler whenever possible, or at least
> to try to make differences as small as possible by use of compilation
> options that would ensure the same bit precision, if they are available (I
> think they exist for some compilers). At worst, you could try compiling with
> the same 32-bit compiler in both clusters, because then the internal
> representation might be the same and the precision problems would, in
> principle, disappear. 32-bit compilers should run without problems on 64-bit
> processors - the inverse is not possible, though.
>
> Marcos
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:13 PM, holin chen <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>>         When I use transiesta to calculate a tunneling current point as
>> small as 10^-13 A, I met a problem that the values of an absolutely same
>> structure in 32-bit  cluster and 64-bit cluster are quite different. We
>> check a same structure in different voltage on different cluster and get the
>> current value list as follow:
>> V      =[1   V                                  1.5  V
>>               2 V             ];
>> I64-bit=[2.38648209E-14 A        1.45968352E-13   A
>> 2.47311892E-14 A];
>> I32-bit=[4.67725291E-15 A        5.93199295E-14  A
>> 3.98557086E-14 A ];
>>  Then I compare the output file, find that the difference begin from the
>> transiesta calculation(see the underline in fig1).
>>
>>  And then we check another structure whose tunneling current is about
>> 10^-6 A, the difference between different cluster is as small as 7%, which
>> is acceptable.So I doubt if the current is too small so that a subtle
>> tolerance will cause large difference. If so , how can transiesta calculate
>> the small currents?
>>
>>    My second problem is about the transmission plot. I don't know why
>> there are so many peaks on my plot (see fig2). Is it able to change some
>> settings from the fdf so that the plot could be a little smoother?  My fdf
>> file setting is as follow. There is a setting 'TS.TBT.Eta        0.000001
>> Ry' I underline by yellow color, which is copied from the example
>> "TranSIESTA_Steps". I can't find the explanation from the siesta User's
>> guide. Could you tell me the meaning of it?
>>
>> Thanks a lot!
>>  Best wishes!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>  SystemName     scat
>>
>> SystemLabel    scat
>>
>> %block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>>
>>   30   0   0    0.0
>>
>>   0   20   0    0.0
>>
>>   0   0   1    0.0
>>
>> %endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>>
>> xc.functional           LDA
>>
>> xc.authors              CA
>>
>> MeshCutoff              200.00000000 Ry
>>
>> SolutionMethod          Transiesta
>>
>> OccupationFunction      MP
>>
>> ElectronicTemperature   300 K
>>
>> SpinPolarized           F
>>
>> FixSpin                 F
>>
>> MaxSCFIterations        1000
>>
>> DM.NumberPulay          6
>>
>> DM.NumberBroyden        0
>>
>> DM.MixingWeight         0.1000000000
>>
>> DM.OccupancyTolerance   0.1000000000E-11
>>
>> DM.NumberKick           0
>>
>> DM.KickMixingWeight     0.5000000000
>>
>> DM.Tolerance            0.005
>>
>> UseSaveData             T
>>
>> MD.NumCGsteps           0
>>
>> MD.TypeOfRun            Verlet
>>
>> MD.VariableCell         F
>>
>> MD.MaxCGDispl           0.2000000000  Bohr
>>
>> MD.MaxForceTol          0.05 eV/Ang
>>
>> #MD.MaxStressTol        0.0001 eV/Ang**3
>>
>> Diag.ParallelOverK      F
>>
>> Diag.DivideAndConquer       F
>>
>> PAO.EnergyShift         50 meV
>>
>> PAO.SplitNorm           0.1500000000
>>
>> PAO.BasisType           split
>>
>> WriteMullikenPop                0
>>
>> WriteBands                      F
>>
>> SaveRho                         F
>>
>> SaveElectrostaticPotential      F
>>
>> SaveTotalPotential              F
>>
>> WriteCoorXmol                   T
>>
>> %block ExternalElectricField
>>
>>   0.000  0.000  0.000   V/Ang
>>
>> %endblock ExternalElectricField
>>
>> %include SPOSITIONS.fdf
>>
>> # Transiesta information
>>
>> SolutionMethod Transiesta
>>
>> # GENGF OPTIONS
>>
>> TS.ComplexContour.Emin        -28 eV
>>
>> TS.ComplexContour.NPoles       16
>>
>> TS.ComplexContour.NCircle      16
>>
>> TS.ComplexContour.NLine        10
>>
>> # BIAS OPTIONS
>>
>> TS.biasContour.NumPoints       10
>>
>> # TS OPTIONS
>>
>> TS.Voltage   1.15 eV
>>
>> # TBT OPTIONS
>>
>> TS.TBT.Emin -3 eV
>>
>> TS.TBT.Emax +3 eV
>>
>> TS.TBT.NPoints 500
>>
>> TS.TBT.NEigen 3
>>
>> TS.TBT.Eta        0.000001 Ry
>>
>> # Write electrode hamiltonian
>>
>> TS.SaveHS   .true.
>>
>> TS.SaveLead .true.
>>
>> # LEFT ELECTRODE
>>
>> TS.HSFileLeft  ./Left-elec.TSHS
>>
>> TS.NumUsedAtomsLeft   6
>>
>> TS.BufferAtomsLeft    0
>>
>> # RIGHT ELECTRODE
>>
>> TS.HSFileRight  ./Right-elec.TSHS
>>
>> TS.NumUsedAtomsRight  6
>>
>> TS.BufferAtomsRight   0
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Holin Chen
>>
>
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