Dear Chen,
I think TS.TBT.NEigen has nothing to your result,it is the Eigen you want to 
output.

For the default is 0.

2010-10-01



Guangping Zhang



发件人: holin chen <[email protected]>
发送时间: 2010-10-01 20:16
主 题: Re: [SIESTA-L] Different clusters different results?
收件人: [email protected]



Marcos


Thank you for your advice, I will stick to the same compiler in future 
calculation.
The compiler and compilation options are exactly the same. Have you ever 
calculate such a small current before? I doubt it's because the current too 
small and my "DM.Tolerance =0.005 "setting is too large. I will improve the 
accuracy and see the results.


Now I am quite confused in the TS.TBT.NEigen and TS.TBT.Eta setting. 
My electrodes is 6 Cu(111) atoms and the TS.TBT.NEigen is 3, is it too small?
How to choose the TS.TBT.NEigen value , since the User's guide has little 
introduction about it.
And what is TS.TBT.Eta mean? How it effect the results?
Thanks!


Holin Chen


2010/10/1 Marcos Veríssimo Alves <[email protected]>

Chen,


Apart from the processors being different in the bits, is the compiler exactly 
the same (I mean, same version for the compiler and libraries)? If so, are the 
compilation options the same in both clusters? If the answer to the two 
previous questions is yes, then it might be a matter of the precision in the 
representation of data in both clusters **due to the compiler you are using**, 
i.e., caused by the use of a different bit precision. I say "might" because I 
don't remember having tested this sort of thing before - luckily I always had 
access to the same kind of machines when it came to bit precision.


I know that different compilers (different meaning ifort, pathscale and xlf90, 
for example) could give you slightly different final results, and then it is 
best to stick to the same compiler whenever possible, or at least to try to 
make differences as small as possible by use of compilation options that would 
ensure the same bit precision, if they are available (I think they exist for 
some compilers). At worst, you could try compiling with the same 32-bit 
compiler in both clusters, because then the internal representation might be 
the same and the precision problems would, in principle, disappear. 32-bit 
compilers should run without problems on 64-bit processors - the inverse is not 
possible, though.


Marcos



On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 1:13 PM, holin chen <[email protected]> wrote:

Dear friends,
      

        When I use transiesta to calculate a tunneling current point as small 
as 10^-13 A, I met a problem that the values of an absolutely same structure in 
32-bit  cluster and 64-bit cluster are quite different. We check a same 
structure in different voltage on different cluster and get the current value 
list as follow:
V      =[1   V                                  1.5  V                          
         2 V             ];
I64-bit=[2.38648209E-14 A        1.45968352E-13   A             2.47311892E-14 
A];
I32-bit=[4.67725291E-15 A        5.93199295E-14  A               3.98557086E-14 
A ];
 Then I compare the output file, find that the difference begin from the 
transiesta calculation(see the underline in fig1).
   
 And then we check another structure whose tunneling current is about 10^-6 A, 
the difference between different cluster is as small as 7%, which is 
acceptable.So I doubt if the current is too small so that a subtle tolerance 
will cause large difference. If so , how can transiesta calculate the small 
currents?


   My second problem is about the transmission plot. I don't know why there are 
so many peaks on my plot (see fig2). Is it able to change some settings from 
the fdf so that the plot could be a little smoother?  My fdf file setting is as 
follow. There is a setting 'TS.TBT.Eta        0.000001 Ry' I underline by 
yellow color, which is copied from the example "TranSIESTA_Steps". I can't find 
the explanation from the siesta User's guide. Could you tell me the meaning of 
it?


Thanks a lot!
 Best wishes! 















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TS.ComplexContour.NPoles       16
TS.ComplexContour.NCircle      16
TS.ComplexContour.NLine        10
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TS.SaveHS   .true.
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TS.HSFileRight  ./Right-elec.TSHS
TS.NumUsedAtomsRight  6
TS.BufferAtomsRight   0





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