Correction to my previous email :

Then, find the *smallest *value of mesh-cutoff that fits this criterion
(while making sure of course that larger cutoff values also fit the
criterion).
*This smallest value is your converged mesh-cutoff.*

On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 7:34 PM, Nicolas Leconte <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi Stephan,
>
> In short, it is completely up to you to decide when convergence is reached.
>
> In long, yes, it is quite an arbitrary choice. However, you should let
> literature guide you what are usual convergence thresholds for the
> parameter of interest. Depending on the code, plane waves, numerical
> orbitals, etc, you can achieve better or worse accuracy (e.g., meV,
> micro-eV).
>
> So, how to proceed?
>
> Do your calculations for different mesh-cutoffs, just as you did before.
>
> Do one extremely converged calculation, i.e. a very large value where you
> don't see any "sensible" change anymore in the numerical values. This
> concept of "sensible" is related to the code-dependent accuracy that I
> mentioned above.
>
> Decide on your convergence criterion, absolute or relative, in comparison
> with this one calculation. These criteria can for instance be "0.1% error
> compared to that one calculation" or "within 10 meV error compared to that
> one calculation".
>
> Then, find the value of meshcutoff that fits this criterion (while making
> sure of course that larger cutoff values also fit the criterion).
>
> And mention this convergence criterion in your publication!
>
> Note that convergence studies should be done for the parameter of interest
> for your study. It's not because convergence is reached for the total
> energy that it will be the case for your bond-length, or your band-gap, or
> your phonon spectrum, etc...
> As a rule of thumb, energy usually converges much faster than the rest.
>
> Good luck,
> Nicolas
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 12, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Mayuri Vaghela <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> when you take any convergence if you draw mesh-cutoff vs energy graph ,
>> you will get minima in the graph put that value of meshcutoff as your
>> converged mesh cut off value
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 10:21 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stephan,
>>> it depends on how big is your unit cell and what you want to study.
>>>
>>> > Hi,
>>> >
>>> > I've a question concerning the convergence criterion.
>>> >
>>> > Let's say I want to examine convergence of the total energy a system
>>> with
>>> > respect to the meshcutoff.
>>> >
>>> > When is convergence reached? Is it reached when there is no change in
>>> the
>>> > first digit after the comma
>>> >
>>> > like in the following example:
>>> >
>>> > meshcutoff         total energy
>>> >
>>> > 150              -42994.1019
>>> >
>>> > 170              -42994.116
>>> >
>>> > 190              -42994.127
>>> >
>>> > 210              -42994.133
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > or is it usefull to continue the test till there is no change in the
>>> > second digit after the comma?
>>> >
>>> > What is a sensible criterion for convergence?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks and regards
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Stephan Ludwig
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
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