For almost 250 atoms per unit cell, a 1x2x2 k-points grid and assuming
that you use a base of one atomic orbital per atom, you have 1000
eigenvalues. Obviously, this number will increase up to 4000 eigenvalues,
if you have 4 atomic orbitals per atom. Under these conditions and
assuming that the k-points grid is inverse proportional to the dimensions
of your unit cell dimensions, then the convergence criterion should work
fine. I believe that a 1x1x1 k-points grid might be also fine. You can
check that easily and you can see the differences between a 1x1x1 and a
1x2x2 k-points grid. I believe that you will not find any significant
differences.

Zacharias Fthenakis

> Dear vZacharias,
>
> is your criterion also correct regarding convergence with resperct to the
> k-grid?
>
> I'm asking because in this case I reach convergence already with a 1x2x2
> mesh and this seems to me a very little amount of grid-points.
>
>
>
> Thanks and Regards
>
>
>
> Stephan
>
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: Ludwig, Stephan <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday 12th August 2015 20:00
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [SIESTA-L] When is convergence reached?
>
>
>
> Thank you Zacharias
>
>
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday 12th August 2015 19:45
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [SIESTA-L] When is convergence reached?
>
>
> Try to find the convergence in terms of energy per atom. What you will
> find is that your energy is converged with accuracy less than 1meV/atom.
> This accuracy is good enough for band structure calculations. Therefore,
> convergence has already been reached for a 200 mesh cutoff.
>
> Zacharias Fthenakis
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> thank you for the reply my unit cell is rather big (at least for a
>> solid).
>> Its an organic salt with 236 atoms.
>>
>> Cell volume = 2905.615438 Ang**3
>>
>> : Cell vector modules (Ang) : 32.783000 11.179003 7.999052
>>
>>
>>
>> In the first step I want to study bandstructure DOS and PDOS.
>>
>> Later optical excitations.
>>
>>
>>
>> Can you tell when I can call the system convergent wrt the total
>> energy.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks and Regards
>>
>> Stephan
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original message-----
>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Tuesday 11th August 2015 18:52
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [SIESTA-L] When is convergence reached?
>>
>>
>> Hi Stephan,
>> it depends on how big is your unit cell and what you want to study.
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I've a question concerning the convergence criterion.
>>>
>>> Let's say I want to examine convergence of the total energy a system
>>> with
>>> respect to the meshcutoff.
>>>
>>> When is convergence reached? Is it reached when there is no change in
>>> the
>>> first digit after the comma
>>>
>>> like in the following example:
>>>
>>> meshcutoff         total energy
>>>
>>> 150              -42994.1019
>>>
>>> 170              -42994.116
>>>
>>> 190              -42994.127
>>>
>>> 210              -42994.133
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> or is it usefull to continue the test till there is no change in the
>>> second digit after the comma?
>>>
>>> What is a sensible criterion for convergence?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks and regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Stephan Ludwig
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>> Dr Zacharias G. Fthenakis
>> Research Associate
>> Institute of Electronic Structure and Laser (I.E.S.L.)
>> Foundation for Research and Technology Hellas (FO.R.T.H.)
>> Vassilika Vouton P.O. Box 1527 71003 Heraklion Crete Greece
>> Phone +30 2810 391824
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>>
>>
>
>
> *********************************************************
> Dr Zacharias G. Fthenakis
> Research Associate
> Institute of Electronic Structure and Laser (I.E.S.L.)
> Foundation for Research and Technology Hellas (FO.R.T.H.)
> Vassilika Vouton P.O. Box 1527 71003 Heraklion Crete Greece
> Phone +30 2810 391824
> FAX   +30 2810 391305
> webpage: http://esperia.iesl.forth.gr/˜fthenak
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>
>


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Dr Zacharias G. Fthenakis
Research Associate
Institute of Electronic Structure and Laser (I.E.S.L.)
Foundation for Research and Technology Hellas (FO.R.T.H.)
Vassilika Vouton P.O. Box 1527 71003 Heraklion Crete Greece
Phone +30 2810 391824
FAX   +30 2810 391305
webpage: http://esperia.iesl.forth.gr/~fthenak
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