Yes… The seller, as you stated, became a member. I’m fine with that. The proposal talks about sellers not needing to become members and not developing any contractual relationship with APNIC… That is where the issues arise.
Owen On Feb 25, 2014, at 5:47 PM, Mike Burns <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > We have brokered a transfer of legacy space from the APNIC region to a buyer > in the APNIC region. > As part of the process, the seller was allowed to pay a partial fee to > temporarily attain member status. > I think it was processed under APNIC policy for the transfer of historical > resources. > http://www.apnic.net/publications/media-library/documents/resource-guidelines/historical-transfer > > However they did it, APNIC did vet the seller as the owner of the address > rights before the transfer was completed. > > Hope this helps. > > Regards, > Mike Burns > IPTrading.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Owen DeLong > To: Skeeve Stevens > Cc: [email protected] ; [email protected] SIG List > Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:03 PM > Subject: Re: [sig-policy] Policy Regarding Transfers of Legacy Space > > Argh. Cell phone autocorrected me into the opposite of my intent. > > > Legacy should be NO different. Requirements for legacy should be identical. > > The problem with allowing non-contracted parties to be the source of a > transfer becomes one of how you verify or authenticate said party and what > your recourse is in the event of fraud. > > What if person Q pretends to be authorized to sell block X which is legacy to > organization Z, but it later turns out that organization Z doesn't know Q and > there's no contract between anyone except APNIC and the transfer recipient R? > > Does R sue Q? X? Z? APNIC? Or all of the above? What happens to R? What > happens to Z? What happens to the registry records when this comes to light? > > Owen > > > On Feb 25, 2014, at 14:18, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Legacy should be different. >> >> Owen >> >> >> On Feb 25, 2014, at 14:07, Skeeve Stevens <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I've been contacted by a holder of some small (not relevant) legacy space >>> who was inquiring about selling it. >>> >>> But, they are not an APNIC member (or a Non-Member). >>> >>> Referring to: >>> http://www.apnic.net/publications/media-library/documents/membership/non-member-fees#Historical >>> under 1.4, it talks about receiving transfers, but not making transfers. >>> >>> Any thoughts? >>> >>> ...Skeeve >>> >>> Skeeve Stevens - eintellego Networks Pty Ltd >>> [email protected] ; www.eintellegonetworks.com >>> Phone: 1300 239 038; Cell +61 (0)414 753 383 ; skype://skeeve >>> facebook.com/eintellegonetworks ; linkedin.com/in/skeeve >>> twitter.com/theispguy ; blog: www.theispguy.com >>> >>> The Experts Who The Experts Call >>> Juniper - Cisco - Cloud - Consulting - IPv4 Brokering >>> * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy >>> * >>> _______________________________________________ >>> sig-policy mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy >> * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy >> * >> _______________________________________________ >> sig-policy mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy > > > * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy > * > _______________________________________________ > sig-policy mailing list > [email protected] > http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy
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