Owen,

But who determines 'if they need one' ?  Them, or you (plural)?

I believe they should be able to determine that they need one and be able
to get one based on that decision - not told how they should be doing their
upstream connectivity at any particular time.


...Skeeve

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On Thu, Feb 26, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > On Feb 24, 2015, at 22:47 , Raphael Ho <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I¹m having an offline discussion with Aftab, basically the issue he¹s
> > trying to address is that new ISPs in small countries/cities may not meet
> > the day 1 requirements for an ASN, but however should be eligible since
> > they will require an ASN to peer/multihome at some point in the future
> > (which I do agree)
>
> What is the disadvantage for them to get the ASN later, when they actually
> need it?
>
> > Currently they all have to "commit fraud² in order to get an ASN, and I
> > guess some religion takes that more seriously than others.
>
> They only have to commit fraud if they are determined to get an ASN before
> they need one.
>
> > Would we the proposal be acceptable if we reworded the proposal to say
> > something on the lines of
> >
> > ³Eligible LIRs with APNIC Assigned Portable addresses are also eligible
> > for as ASN²?
>
> I think “an ASN” rather than “as ASN”, but I’d need to better understand
> why they need one
> ahead of time. What’s wrong with getting the ASN when you need it?
>
> Owen
>
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