Thanks for the explanation. Now I have the rationale for this proposal. I
can support it.

Kuo Wu

Sanjeev Gupta <[email protected]>於 2017年8月18日 週五,11:28寫道:

>
>
> >  - Do you support or oppose the proposal?
> Mild support.
>
> >  - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
> No.
>
> >  - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
> No.
>
> >  - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
> An explicit requirement that the receiving party should be a current APNIC
> member
>
> Overall, I am not clear on how useful or often this will be, but I see no
> disadvantages.  This will help improve the Whois database, and document
> what is currently been done off-books.  It improves the paperwork.
>
>
>
> --
> Sanjeev Gupta
> +65 98551208   http://sg.linkedin.com/in/ghane
>
> On Wed, Aug 9, 2017 at 2:16 PM, chku <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Dear SIG members
>>
>> The proposal "prop-119: Temporary transfers" was sent to the Policy SIG
>> Mailing list in May 2017.
>>
>> It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting at APNIC 44 which will
>> be held in Taichung, Taiwan on Wednesday and Thursday, 14 & 15 September
>> 2017.
>>
>> Information about the proposal is available from:
>>
>>     http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-119
>>
>> You are encouraged to express your views on the proposal:
>>
>>  - Do you support or oppose the proposal?
>>  - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
>>  - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
>>  - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
>>
>> Please find the text of the proposal below.
>>
>> Kind Regards,
>>
>> Sumon, Ching-Heng, Bertrand
>> APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> prop-119-v001: Temporary transfers
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Proposer:       David Hilario
>>                 [email protected]
>>
>> 1. Problem statement
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> It is currently not possible for an organisation to receive a temporary
>> transfer under the current policy framework. Some organisations do not
>> want to have address space registered as assignments or sub-allocations,
>> but would rather have the address space registered as "ALLOCATED PA".
>>
>>
>> 2. Objective of policy change
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Create a possibility for temporary transfers that would allow
>> organisations to have resources directly registered under them while
>> they are the custodians of these resources on the Internet. While also
>> guaranteeing that the offering party will under the APNIC policy be able
>> to recover the resources once the “lease” time has expired unless
>> specifically renewed.
>>
>>
>> 3. Situation in other regions
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> RIPE region has a concept of temporary transfers in their policies. This
>> concept is not found in the other RIRs for the moment.
>>
>>
>> 4. Proposed policy solution
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Adding to section "8.2.1. Conditions on the space to be transferred" the
>> following paragraphs: It must be specified if the transfer is a
>> permanent or temporary transfer.
>>
>> A temporary transfer must have an end date, upon the end date the
>> resources will be transferred back to the same origin account or its
>> successor in the event of merger and acquisitions, unless the transfer
>> is specifically prolonged and confirmed by both parties.
>>
>> If the source account does no longer exist and has no successor, the
>> space will then be returned to the origin RIR for the space. Temporary
>> transfers cannot be further transferred.
>>
>>
>> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Advantages:
>> Gives a greater flexibility in how LIRs manage and distribute their free
>> pool. Enables organisation to receive address space in the way they
>> intend.
>>
>> Disadvantages:
>> These transfers would be treated and appear as regular transfers, only
>> APNIC the offering and receiving party will be aware of their temporary
>> nature.
>>
>> Organisations receiving such space, if they further assign it, must make
>> be ready to renumber/revoke space from their customers and services then
>> the lease expires, this is no different than a sub-allocation and
>> implies the same limitations.
>>
>>
>> 6. Impact on resource holders
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> none
>>
>>
>> 7. References
>> -------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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