Dear Colleagues, I am Satoru Tsurumaki from Japan Open Policy Forum Steering Team..
I would like to share key feedback in our community for prop-141, based on a meeting we organised on 25th Aug to discuss these proposals. Many neutral opinions were expressed about this proposal. (comment details) - From a macroscopic perspective, IPv4 has already been exhausted, so this proposal is not expected to have a significant impact. - This is a proposal from a user's perspective by a proposer who is in trouble, and we think it is a valuable proposal. As the proposal includes measures to prevent complete exhaustion ahead of schedule, we think the opinions of the proposer should be respected. - The number of routes will increase by 10,000, but this is small in relation to the total number of routes, so it should not be a concern. Regards, Satoru Tsurumaki / JPOPF Steering Team 2021年8月30日(月) 21:39 Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi <[email protected]>: > Dear all, > > Here is the Secretariat impact assessment for proposal "prop-141-v001: > Change maximum > delegation size of IPv4 address from 512 ( /23 ) to 768 (/23+/24) > addresses". > > APNIC notes the proposed delegation of additional /24 to the existing > members, as per the > criteria under Section 7.0 "Subsequent IPv4 delegations" who received a > maximum of /23 > (under current policy) after Thursday, 28 February 2019, and the > proposed new > policy to change the IPv4 maximum delegation size to a /23 +/24 to the > new members. > > APNIC also notes the following proposed thresholds: > - IPv4 maximum delegation size will automatically changes to a /23 if > the available (incl reserved) IPv4 pool comes down to 900k. > - IPv4 maximum delegation size will automatically changes to a /24 if > the available (incl reserved) IPv4 pool comes down to 256k, and > add the /16 reserved for future use to the available pool. > > This proposal would require changes to the website content, procedure > documents and manuals, training material, membership > forms and various registry systems. > > If this proposal reaches consensus, implementation may be completed > within 3-6 months. > > Clarifications required: > 1. When the available IPv4 pool is down to 900k or 256k, and in case if > a large IPv4 address space is added to this available pool, > will the maximum delegation size automatically revert to /23+/24 or /23, > or not? > > Regards, > Sunny > > On 13/08/2021 10:00 am, Bertrand Cherrier wrote: > > Dear SIG members, > > > > The proposal "prop-141-v001: Change maximum delegation size of IPv4 > > address from 512 ( /23 ) to 768 (/23+/24) addresses" has been sent > > to the Policy SIG for review. > > > > It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting (OPM) at APNIC 52 > > on Thursday, 16 September 2021. > > > > > https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fconference.apnic.net%2F52%2Fprogram%2Fschedule%2F%23%2Fday%2F4&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0c88d9ff2a3e4b77366608d95ded6d87%7C127d8d0d7ccf473dab096e44ad752ded%7C0%7C0%7C637644097784605051%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=RgeAtrf1ze9SiEEHqSpVoB1dZJ4mv8O0oygInlB%2Bt7Y%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing > > list before the OPM. > > > > The comment period on the mailing list before the OPM is an important > > part of the Policy Development Process (PDP). We encourage you to > > express your views on the proposal: > > > > - Do you support or oppose this proposal? > > - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so, > > tell the community about your situation. > > - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal? > > - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear? > > - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more > > effective? > > > > Information about this proposal is appended below and also available at: > > > > > https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.apnic.net%2Fpolicy%2Fproposals%2Fprop-141&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0c88d9ff2a3e4b77366608d95ded6d87%7C127d8d0d7ccf473dab096e44ad752ded%7C0%7C0%7C637644097784605051%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=alrD0MZrJcV9sfP3%2FEs3zy1Ynz8YBXx4zEQHsLQcZGs%3D&reserved=0 > > > > > > Regards, > > Bertrand and Ching-Heng > > APNIC Policy SIG Chairs > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > prop-141-v001: Change maximum delegation size of IPv4 address from 512 > > ( /23 ) to 768 (/23+/24) addresses > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Proposer: Simon Sohel Baroi ([email protected]) > > Aftab Siddiqui ([email protected]) > > > > > > 1. Problem statement > > -------------------- > > According to the APNIC IPv4 Address Report, > > ( > https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apnic.net%2Fmanage-ip%2Fipv4-exhaustion%2F&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0c88d9ff2a3e4b77366608d95ded6d87%7C127d8d0d7ccf473dab096e44ad752ded%7C0%7C0%7C637644097784605051%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=AjbAiqtC5RbvKPGDEVADmSrxJILXwC4Avl4sfQyNNAw%3D&reserved=0 > > ) the available and reserve pool size is as follows: > > > > Available Pool : IP Address 3480064 | 13594 Of /24 > > Reserved Pool : IP Address 2240000 | 8750 Of /24 > > > > If APNIC continues to delegate IPv4 in size of /23 with the average > > growth rate of 145 x /23 delegations per month the pool will be > > exhausted around Aug/Sep 2027. Which means the huge number of IPv4 > > addresses will be unused for a long time and large community members > > will still remain behind the NAT box or without Internet Connectivity. > > > > > > 2. Objective of policy change > > ----------------------------- > > The current final /8 allocation policy [1] advise that the current > > minimum > > delegation size for IPv4 is 256 ( /24 ) addresses and each APNIC > > account holder is only eligible > > to receive IPv4 address delegations totalling a maximum 512 ( /23 ) > > addresses from the APNIC 103/8 IPv4 address pool. > > (6.1. Minimum and maximum IPv4 delegations ) > > > > This is a proposal to change the maximum size of IPv4 address delegations > > from the available IPv4 address pool to a totalling of 768 (/23+/24) > > addresses. > > > > Increasing the maximum IPv4 delegation size from /23 to /23+/24 IPv4 > > address pool will allow Newcomers and also Existing APNIC account > > holders who only received /23 after Thursday, 28 February 2019 to > > receive 256 (/24) IPv4 addresses. > > > > > > 3. Situation in other regions > > ----------------------------- > > There is no similar policy in place in other RIR regions. > > > > > > > > 4. Proposed policy solution > > --------------------------- > > It is recommended to increase the IPv4 address delegation size from > > 512 max (/23) to 768 (/23 + /24). The address space can now be > > allocated from the available 103/8 last /8 block and/or from non 103/8 > > recovered address blocks. This policy will continue until the > > available + reserved comes down to less than 900,000 IPv4 addresses > > i.e. < 3500x/24, once reaching this threshold the maximum delegation > > size will revert back to 512 IPv4 addresses (/23) and will continue to > > do so until the available + reserved block comes down to 256,000 IPv4 > > addresses i.e 1000x/24 then the delegation size will further reduce to > > 256 IPv4 addresses i.e. /24 and at this time the /16 reserved for > > future use (as per APNIC-127 Section 5.1.1) will be added to the > > available address block. > > > > It is proposed to modify the section 6.1 maximum IPv4 delegations of > > the APNIC Internet Number Resource Policies [1] accordingly. > > > > Current Policy text > > > > Since Thursday, 28 February 2019, each APNIC account holder is only > > eligible to receive IPv4 address delegations totalling a maximum /23 > > from the APNIC 103/8 IPv4 address pool. > > > > New Policy text > > > > Each APNIC account holder is only eligible to receive IPv4 address > > delegations totalling a maximum 768 ( /23+/24 ) from the APNIC > > available IPv4 address pool. > > > > Existing APNIC account holders (since Thursday, 28 February 2019 ), > > who only have /23 can apply for another /24 maintaining the criteria > > matched with section 7.0. > > > > If the available IPv4 Pool size, which consists of available and > > reserve pool, comes down to 900,000 addresses, delegation size will > > automatically come down to 512 (/23) IPv4 addresses. > > > > If the available IPv4 Pool size, which consists of available and > > reserve pool, comes down to 256,000 addresses, delegation size will > > automatically come down to 256 (/24) IPv4 addresses. In this situation > > APNIC will also add /16 reserved blocks in to the available pool which > > is reserved for future use as per APNIC-127 Section 5.1.1 > > > > > > 5. Advantages / Disadvantages > > ----------------------------- > > Advantages: > > - This proposal will ensure smooth allocation of IPv4 addresses to > > existing and new APNIC members. > > > > Disadvantages: > > - This might add up to 10,000 /24s into the global routing table i.e. > > 1.2% increase. The current growth rate without this policy is > > approximately 7% every year. > > > > > > 6. Impact on resource holders > > ----------------------------- > > The Organisation who became an APNIC member after Thursday, 28 > > February 2019 and received only /23, can receive another /24 IPv4 > > Resources. > > > > > > > > 7. References > > ------------- > > [1] Section 6.1. "Minimum and maximum IPv4 delegations" of "Policies > > for IPv4 address > > space management in the Asia Pacific region" > > > https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.apnic.net%2Fcommunity%2Fpolicy%2Fresources%236.1.-Minimum-and-maximum-IPv4-delegations&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0c88d9ff2a3e4b77366608d95ded6d87%7C127d8d0d7ccf473dab096e44ad752ded%7C0%7C0%7C637644097784605051%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=EsAXv%2BJcqVXbWWus5%2F6jYSPWnmdkM2VIqutlVadPXpc%3D&reserved=0 > > > > * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management > > policy * > > _______________________________________________ > > sig-policy mailing list > > [email protected] > > > https://aus01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fmailman.apnic.net%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Fsig-policy&data=04%7C01%7C%7C0c88d9ff2a3e4b77366608d95ded6d87%7C127d8d0d7ccf473dab096e44ad752ded%7C0%7C0%7C637644097784605051%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=rkIM1KD92bWBQX7PuLOns8asVSjPcq94dp7ubTIlIDA%3D&reserved=0 > > -- > > _______________________________________________________________________ > > Srinivas (Sunny) Chendi > Senior Advisor - Policy and Community Development > > Asia Pacific Network Information Centre (APNIC) | Tel: +61 7 3858 3100 > PO Box 3646 South Brisbane, QLD 4101 Australia | Fax: +61 7 3858 3199 > 6 Cordelia Street, South Brisbane, QLD | http://www.apnic.net > _______________________________________________________________________ > > * sig-policy: APNIC SIG on resource management policy > * > _______________________________________________ > sig-policy mailing list > [email protected] > https://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/sig-policy -- -- Satoru Tsurumaki BBIX, Inc
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