I would like to remind a couple of objectives of the present IPv4
delegation policy;

1.      This will give the opportunity to get IPv4 delegation in the future
of new startups or SMBs, especially from developing nations.


2.      To encourage the implementation of IPv6 growth rate in the APNIC
region.


Aside, the current delegations rate per month might be varied in the future
by considering various factors so we would like to request to authors to
share the expected growth model to validate the period to effect this type
of policy till APNIC runs out of all IPv4 addresses.

Are we, APNIC members want to run out of all IPv4 addresses through we have
available or unallocated IPv6 addresses for those who required additional
IPv4 addresses?


Regards/Jahangir

On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 8:43 AM Michael B. Williams via sig-policy <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I am extremely supportive of this. We have numerous IP resourcing
> requirements in the APNIC region and are unable to meet those resourcing
> needs currently which is resulting in us deploying assets in the ARIN
> region at a significant performance degradation to our users whose traffic
> must now flow from Australia to the USA for servicing.
>
> Receiving further /23 delegations would allow us to service these
> customers in the APNIC region.
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> On Thu, Jan 19, 2023 at 9:27 PM Aftab Siddiqui <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> I would request authors to share the modeling/expected growth chart for
>> /21 delegation for "ALL" members with less than 2048 v4 addresses and when
>> will we run out of v4?
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Aftab A. Siddiqui
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 20 Jan 2023 at 11:23, Bertrand Cherrier <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear SIG members,
>>>
>>> The proposal "prop-149: Change of maximum delegation for less than /21
>>> total
>>> IPv4 holdings" has been sent to the Policy SIG for review.
>>>
>>> It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting (OPM) at APNIC 55 on
>>> Wednesday, 1 March 2023.
>>>
>>> https://conference.apnic.net/55/program/schedule/#/day/10
>>>
>>> We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list
>>> before the OPM.
>>>
>>> The comment period on the mailing list before the OPM is an important
>>> part of the Policy Development Process (PDP). We encourage you to
>>> express your views on the proposal:
>>>
>>>    - Do you support or oppose this proposal?
>>>    - Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
>>>      tell the community about your situation.
>>>    - Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
>>>    - Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
>>>    - What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more
>>> effective?
>>>
>>> Information about this proposal is appended below as well as available
>>> at:
>>>
>>> http://www.apnic.net/policy/proposals/prop-149
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Bertrand, Shaila, and Anupam
>>> APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> prop-149-v001: Change of maximum delegation for less than /21 total IPv4
>>> holdings
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Proposer: Shubham Agarwal ([email protected])
>>>            Gaurav Kansal [email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>> 1. Problem statement
>>> --------------------
>>> Over the last three years, no more than 8,00,000 IPv4 addresses have
>>> been reassigned in a single year.
>>>
>>> Status of IPv4 Allocation by APNIC in 2022:
>>>
>>> Available Pool: 2,593,792 IPv4 Address | about 5,066 Of /23
>>> Reserved Pool: 1,702,144 IPv4 Address | about 3,300 Of /23
>>>
>>> A sizable portion of the IPv4 pool is 'available+reserved' at APNIC. If
>>> APNIC continues to delegate /23
>>> IPv4 at its current rate of 145 x /23 delegations per month, the pool
>>> will be depleted by the end of 2027.
>>>
>>> This implies that a significant portion of the IPv4 address space will
>>> remain available or unallocated
>>> for an extended period of time, and that a sizable community may
>>> continue to face resource shortages.
>>>
>>> This is a proposal to give APNIC account holders with fewer than /21
>>> delegated IPv4 resources (i.e. fewer
>>> than 2,048 IPs) access to an additional /23 IPv4 address block.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2. Objective of policy change
>>> -----------------------------
>>> According to the current IPv4 allocation policy, APNIC account holders
>>> are only qualified to receive IPv4
>>> address delegations totaling a maximum of 512 (/23) from the APNIC 103/8
>>> IPv4 address pool. The current
>>> minimum delegation size for IPv4 is 256 (/24) addresses. It is as per
>>> APNIC defined current minimum and
>>> maximum IPv4 delegation policy.
>>>
>>> Thus, this proposal permits account holders to use an additional /23 if
>>> their total number of delegated
>>> IPv4 addresses is fewer than 2,048 (less than /21).
>>>
>>> Due to the increase in the maximum IPv4 delegation size from 512 (/23)
>>> to 1024 (/23 + /23) address pool,
>>> the number of IPv4 address resources will increase for new and existing
>>> APNIC account holders with a
>>> total number of delegated IPv4 addresses less than 2,048 (less than /21).
>>>
>>>
>>> 3. Situation in other regions
>>> -----------------------------
>>> Other RIR regions do not have a similar policy in place.
>>>
>>>
>>> 4. Proposed policy solution
>>> ---------------------------
>>> Current Policy text:
>>>
>>> Since Thursday, 28 February 2019, each APNIC account holder is only
>>> eligible to receive IPv4 address
>>> delegations totaling a maximum /23 from the APNIC 103/8 IPv4 address
>>> pool.
>>>
>>> Proposed Policy text:
>>>
>>> New APNIC account holders are eligible to receive a maximum 1024 (/22)
>>> from the APNIC available IPv4 address pool.
>>> Current APNIC account holders with less than /21 total IPv4 resources,
>>> are eligible to recieve an additional /23 IPv4 delegation and must be
>>> requested.
>>> Account holders with total IPv4 resources equal to and more than /21 are
>>> not eligible for further IPv4 delegations.
>>>
>>> This policy will be in effect till APNIC runs out of all IPv4 addresses.
>>>
>>>
>>> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
>>> -----------------------------
>>> Advantages:
>>> - This proposal allows for more IPv4 addresses to be received.
>>> - This proposal increases the total number of IPv4 addresses that can be
>>> made available to networks, developing
>>> nations, small and medium-sized businesses (SMBs), etc.
>>>
>>> Disadvantages:
>>> - No disadvantages are foreseen.
>>>
>>>
>>> 6. Impact on resource holders
>>> -----------------------------
>>> It increases the maximum size of a delegated address block available to
>>> some APNIC account holders who currently
>>> have limited IPv4 resources.
>>> NIR members will be affected in the same way as APNIC account holders.
>>>
>>>
>>> 7. References
>>> -------------
>>> https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/resources#a_h_6_1
>>>
>>>
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