Thanks Sanjaya/Secretariat for the quick response.

So it's a bad idea.

Regards,

Aftab A. Siddiqui


On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 at 17:55, Sanjaya Sanjaya <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
>
>
> The spreadsheet attached uses data from the delegated extended stats file
> Aftab mentioned below.
>
>
>
> There are 19,365 IPv4 custodians that hold smaller than a /21. These
> include APNIC Members & Non-members, NIR Members, and historical holders.
> Assuming that all of them are eligible and submitted a valid additional /23
> request, then APNIC will need 9,914,880 IPv4 addresses in its pool.
>
>
>
> If we want to limit the eligibility to those who received allocation, say,
> after 28 February 2019 (the date we implemented prop-127 that limits
> delegation size to a /23), then the number of potential claimers goes down
> to 8,537 (= 4,370,944 IPv4 addresses)
>
>
>
> Please note that the spreadsheet does not include IPv6/ASN only custodians
> that holds zero IPv4. If they are eligible, the potential claimer will
> increase by 882.
>
>
>
> I hope this information helps in this policy proposal discussion.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Sanjaya
>
>
>
> *From:* Aftab Siddiqui <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 January 2023 10:04 AM
> *To:* Shubham Agarwal <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* [sig-policy] Re: prop-149-v001: Change of maximum delegation
> for less than /21 total IPv4 holdings
>
>
>
> Hi Shubham, thanks for providing this data. though it doesn't answer my
> question.
>
>
>
> As per your proposal, please list.
>
> 1. How many existing members will be eligible for extra IPv4 allocation?
>
> 2. How far back to go in the past to start allocating the extra IPv4
> addresses to members who received less than /21?
>
> 3. Assuming everyone opted for a new allocation size, how long will these
> existing IPv4 addresses last?
>
>
>
> You can use the extended delegation file to get the above answers.
> https://ftp.apnic.net/stats/apnic/delegated-apnic-extended-20230125
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Aftab A. Siddiqui
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 25 Jan 2023 at 09:48, Shubham Agarwal <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> As on date, total number of 24,75,008 IPv4 addresses (9668 number of /24
> blocks) are available and 14,32,832 number of IPv4 addresses (5597 number
> of /24 blocks) are reserved as per stats available here -
> https://ftp.apnic.net/stats/apnic/delegated-apnic-20230124 .
> In last 4 years, the following number of /24 IP blocks were allotted —
>
> 1.  2019 —  10,86,464 (4244 IPv4 pools)
> 2.  2020 —  8,79,872 (3437 IPv4 pools)
> 3.  2021 —  11,52,256 (4501 IPv4 pools)
> 4.  2022 —  12,31,616 (4811 IPv4 pools)
>
> On an average, 4248 number of /24 segments has been allotted by the APNIC
> in last 4 years. And with the current available and reserved pool, APNIC
> can easily allot the IP numbers with the current pace for next ~ 4 years
> (this doesn’t include the pools marked as historical ones).
> The proposed policy will help the smaller organizations (having allocation
> smaller than /21) to get more IP numbers from APNIC, whereas for members
> who already have chunk bigger than /21, have the option to go for the open
> market, if required.
>
> This policy will not lead to hoarding and re-selling as existing APNIC
> policy doesn’t allow transfer/sale of new allocations for next years.
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