Hello, Problem Statement “If a company doesn’t have IPv4, not a LIR, it is difficult for them to request IPv6 allocation for IoT services.”
This isn't correct - if a company has a justifiable need for IP address space, can demonstrate how the space will be used and the usage is compliant with all relevant policies, they can apply for IP space. “IPv6 addresses will be used to host information of non-electronic items on the Internet” If the intent is to use IP address space to provide accessibility to a website (or number of websites) then this is already an acceptable use-case under current policy. If an IP address is being used on a web server which shows information about a unique item and the IP address is being used to identify this item offline, the usage of the IP address to identify the item offline is irrelevant to a resource application. The justifiable use-case would be to serve web content. ““In some of the cases, the IoT industry needs to assign IPv6 to ... non-electronic items.”” As has been explained during discussions on v001, this is not a justifiable use-case for a plethora of reasons. “It is a bit difficult for APNIC Hostmasters to evaluate such IPv6 requests without a clear policy.” Yes, there's no policy that permits the usage of IPv6 address space to identify non-electronic items and for good reason, being that this isn't what IPv6 address space is designed for. If on the other hand the need for IPv6 space is to serve content over the Internet from a web server (or number thereof) then this is the justifiable use-case for the IP space. Proposed policy solution “IPv6 addresses can be allocated to Internet of Things for electronic smart devices and/or for hosting information of non-electronic items on the Internet.” I note that your proposed policy solution is for the addition of 8.2.3, which falls under Initial IPv6 Allocations. The definition of "Allocated address space" as per 2.1.2 of APNIC-127 APNIC Internet Number Resource Policies is that it is distributed to internet registries or account holders for the purpose of subsequent distribution to its customers. The use-case you've described (it if were accepted by the community) would in my opinion be regarded as an assignment "for exclusive use within the Internet infrastructure they operate" (see https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/resources#a_h_2_2_3<https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/resources>). The justification of using IPv6 addresses which you've described would fall under "Virtual web hosting" as defined in section 9 of "APNIC-105 APNIC guidelines for IPv4 allocation and assignment requests". After reviewing section 9.0 of APNIC-127 titled IPv6 Assignments, it lists the 4 criteria under which assignments may be made. The justification for which your proposing IPv6 resources may be assigned to LIRs would, in my opinion, be better suited for inclusion in the guidelines for allocation and assignment requests (document reference APNIC-114) and not a policy document. Advantages / Disadvantages “IPv6 has huge number of IP addresses and IoT needs huge number of IP addresses.” While there is a substantial amount of IPv6 address space, this does not mean that we need to assign overly large blocks of IP space. “Not to worry about run out of IPv6.” The same was said about IPv4 decades ago. Look at where we are now. “The original design of IPv6 was for Internet of Things.” My understanding is that the original design for IPv6 was to provide a pathway to resolving the issue with the finite amount of IPv4 address space. Impact on resource holders “More new members joining APNIC from the IoT industry will help to reduce the APNIC membership fee.” How was the idea deduced that the more members APNIC has, the lower member fees get? Conclusion: I do not support and I oppose this proposal because the justification of "IPv6 addresses [being] used to host information of non-electronic items on the Internet" the authors are proposing is already set out in APNIC's guidelines. This proposal is a duplicate of justification already acceptable and is not necessary, among other reasons already laid out by other community members. Regards, Christopher Hawker
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