Dear Colleagues,

I am Satoru Tsurumaki from Japan Open Policy Forum Steering Team.

I would like to share key feedback in our community for prop-168, based
on a meeting we organized on 22nd Jan to discuss these proposals.
Please note that it is a summary of the discussions among the 11 Japanese
community members who attended the meeting.

Many opposing opinions were expressed from the attendees about this proposal.

(comment details)
- The proposal states that expanding the maximum allocation size would allow
  organizations that need additional addresses to avoid transfers or leasing.
  However, addressing leasing-related issues by changing the allocation size
  does not appear to be an appropriate approach.

- Several proposals to modify IPv4 allocation sizes have been
submitted in the past,
  and there is a sense of fatigue regarding repeated discussions of this topic.
  Greater effort should be directed toward IPv6 deployment rather than continued
  debate over IPv4.

- From a policy perspective, it is undesirable for allocation sizes to
vary depending on
  the time period. This proposal may simply accelerate IPv4 exhaustion
by a few years.

- According to APNIC’s transfer request list, only around 10% of
organizations request
  address blocks of /23 or smaller. Therefore, it is unlikely that
this proposal would often
  lead to additional allocations for organizations whose historical
maximum allocation was /23.

- Expanding the allocation size while reserving a new /16 pool for
transfers appears
  inconsistent with the stated objective of distributing addresses more broadly.

- If expanding the allocation size demonstrably reduces reliance on
leasing, then support
  for the proposal would be warranted.

Regards,

Satoru  Tsurumaki
JPOPF Steering Team

2025年12月18日(木) 10:12 顧靜恆 <[email protected]>:
>
> Dear SIG members,
>
>
>
> A new proposal "prop-168-v001: Increase to maximum IPv4 delegations" has been 
> sent to the Policy SIG for review.
>
>
>
> It will be presented at the Open Policy Meeting (OPM) at APNIC 61 on 
> Wednesday, 11 February 2026.
>
>
>
> https://2026.apricot.net/programme/programme#/day/8/
>
>
>
> We invite you to review and comment on the proposal on the mailing list 
> before the OPM.
>
>
>
> The comment period on the mailing list before the OPM is an important part of 
> the Policy Development Process (PDP).
>
> We encourage you to express your views on the proposal:
>
>
>
> Do you support or oppose this proposal?
>
>
>
> Does this proposal solve a problem you are experiencing? If so,
>
> tell the community about your situation.
>
>
>
> Do you see any disadvantages in this proposal?
>
>
>
> Is there anything in the proposal that is not clear?
>
>
>
> What changes could be made to this proposal to make it more effective?
>
>
>
> Information about this proposal is appended below as well as available at:
>
> https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-168
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Bikram, Shaila, and Ching-Heng
>
> APNIC Policy SIG Chairs
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> prop-168-v001: Increase to maximum IPv4 delegations
>
>
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Proposers:
>
> Christopher Hawker ([email protected])
>
>
>
> 1. Problem statement
>
> -------------------------
>
> As of 09 December 2025, there were 3,142,656 IPv4 addresses (12,276 x /24) in 
> the available pool [1].
>
> Since prop-127 was implemented back on 04 April 2019 there were 549 new 
> members in 2025 (as of 03/12/2025), 667 new members in 2024 [2],
>
> 904 in 2023 [3], 824 in 2022 [4], 783 in 2021 [5], 827 in 2020 [6] and 841 in 
> 2019 [7] (noting that this also includes Q1 2024 which was prior to 
> implementation of prop-127).
>
> At the current average of 727 new member accounts per year, and if each 
> member was to apply for the maximum delegation of /23,
>
> the delegation rate would be approximately 1454 x /24 per year, meaning the 
> pool will be exhausted in 2035.
>
> This means that resources will sit idle in the available pool for an extended 
> period (up to 9 years), while current members are required to acquire
>
> additional space through market transfers or lease address space to meet 
> operational requirements.
>
>
>
> 2. Objective of policy change
>
> ----------------------------------
>
> Current address policy only allows for the maximum delegation of up to and 
> including a /23 to new and existing members.
>
> This policy change will allow organisations who became members since the 
> implementation of prop-127 and with less than an aggregated /22 to receive an 
> additional
>
> delegation of up to a maximum of a /22 IPv4 delegation.
>
>
>
> 3. Situation in other regions
>
> --------------------------------
>
> - The maximum size aggregate a member in the ARIN region may qualify for at 
> any one time a maximum is a /22 [8].
>
> - "The sum of all allocations made to a single LIR by the RIPE NCC is limited 
> to a maximum of 256 IPv4 addresses (a single /24)." [9]
>
> - Exhaustion Phase 2 (section 5.4.3.2) in AFRINIC's Consolidated Policy 
> Manual states that the "maximum will be /22 per allocation/assignment" [10].
>
> - LACNIC's Policy Manual lists under section 11.1.4 "Policies Relating to the 
> Exhaustion of IPv4 Address Space" that the maximum size a new member may
>
>   receive is a /22, while under 11.1.2 it states that existing members are 
> ineligible for additional space under this policy [11].
>
>
>
> 4. Proposed policy solution
>
> --------------------------------
>
> Update "APNIC-127 APNIC Internet Number Resource Policies" with the below:
>
>
>
> - Delete paragraphs 2 and 3 from section 6.1 "Minimum and maximum IPv4 
> delegations", and replace with the following:
>
> Members who hold less than a /22 may apply for additional space, to bring 
> their combined holdings up to and including a /22.
>
> Members who have transferred any IPv4 address space of any size out of their 
> member account are ineligible for further delegations from APNIC.
>
>
>
> - Delete paragraph 4 from section 11.0 "IPv4 Transfers", and replace with the 
> following:
>
> Addresses delegated from the available pool cannot be transferred for a 
> minimum of five years from the date of delegation.
>
> If a member received an initial delegation and applies for a subsequent 
> delegation, all delegations to the member cannot be transferred for a minimum 
> of 5 years
>
> from the date of the most recent delegation.
>
>
>
> - Update point 4 from paragraph 1 under section 11.1.1 "Conditions on the 
> space to be transferred" as below:
>
> Addresses delegated from the available pool cannot be transferred for a 
> minimum of five years from the date the original delegation was made.
>
> If the source entity received a delegation from APNIC within the last 5 
> years, any resources delegated from the available pool (including those 
> delegated over 5 years ago)
>
> cannot be transferred for a minimum of 5 years from the date the most recent 
> delegation was made.
>
>
>
> - Delete paragraph 3 from section 11.2.1 "Conditions on the space to be 
> transferred" and replace with the following:
>
> Some RIRs, including APNIC, have restrictions against the transfer of certain 
> address blocks.
>
> APNIC policy does not allow the transfer of address space delegated from the 
> available pool to be transferred for a minimum of five years from the date of 
> the most
>
> recent delegation to the member.
>
>
>
> - Delete paragraph 2 from section 14.0 "Mergers & Acquisitions" and replace 
> with the following:
>
> Addresses delegated from the available pool cannot be transferred for a 
> minimum of five years from the date of the most recent delegation from the 
> available pool.
>
>
>
> - Add new section 5.1.5 "Reservation for IPv4 to IPv6 Transitioning":
>
> APNIC will reserve a /16 from the available pool, for the purpose of 
> delegating to members in order to assist with IPv4 to IPv6 transitioning once 
> the available pool
>
> has been exhausted. Addresses delegated from this pool are ineligible for 
> transfers, and must be returned to APNIC when no longer required.
>
>
>
> If a member receives a delegation under this policy and is found to not be 
> using the address space for IPv4-to-IPv6 transitioning, APNIC may recover the 
> resources from the member.
>
>
>
> 5. Advantages / Disadvantages
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Advantages:
>
> - This will help to make additional resources available to members who need 
> it, that would otherwise need to acquire space through market transfers or 
> lease address space.
>
>
>
> Disadvantages:
>
> - This policy will accelerate the exhaustion of IPv4 address space, however, 
> given the slow rate of new memberships
>
>   the benefits of additional space becoming available to members outweigh the 
> disadvantages of accelerated exhaustion.
>
> - This may create a sudden rush of members in applications for additional 
> resources, leading to extended waiting times for the assessment of 
> applications.
>
>
>
> 6. Impact on resource holders
>
> -----------------------------------
>
> No known impacts to resource holders.
>
>
>
> 7. References
>
> ----------------
>
> [1] APNIC Delegation Statistics as of 09 December 2025: 
> https://ftp.apnic.net/stats/apnic/2025/delegated-apnic-extended-20251209.gz
>
> [2] Page 22, APNIC 2024 Activity Report: 
> https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/APNIC-AR-2024.pdf
>
> [3] Page 19, APNIC 2023 Activity Report: 
> https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2024/02/APNIC_AR_2023.pdf
>
> [4] Page 17, APNIC 2022 Activity Report: 
> https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2023/05/APNIC_AR_2022_FINAL.pdf
>
> [5] Page 17, APNIC 2021 Activity Report: 
> https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/APNIC_AR_2021.pdf
>
> [6] Page 18, APNIC 2020 Activity Report: 
> https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/APNIC-2020-Annual-Report.pdf
>
> [7] Page 30, APNIC 2019 Activity Report: 
> https://www.apnic.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/APNIC-AR-2019-FINAL.pdf
>
> [8] ARIN Waitlist, Number Resource Policy Manual, ARIN: 
> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/nrpm/#4-1-8-arin-waitlist
>
> [9] Allocations made by the RIPE NCC to LIRs, IPv4 Address Allocation and 
> Assignment Policies for the RIPE NCC Service Region, RIPE NCC: 
> https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-826/#51-allocations-made-by-the-ripe-ncc-to-lirs
>
> [10] Soft Landing, Consolidated Policy Manual, AFRINIC: 
> https://afrinic.net/policy/manual#Soft-Landing
>
> [11] Policies relating to the Exhaustion of IPv4 Address Space, LACNIC Policy 
> Manual: 
> https://www.lacnic.net/innovaportal/file/680/1/manual-politicas-en-2-21.pdf
>
> _______________________________________________
> SIG-policy - https://mailman.apnic.net/[email protected]/
> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]



-- 
--
Satoru Tsurumaki
BBIX, Inc
_______________________________________________
SIG-policy - https://mailman.apnic.net/[email protected]/
To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]

Reply via email to