-------- Original Message -------- From: "Brandon W. Beasley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [RoadRunner] What, precisely, is their server policy? To: Doug McLaren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Doug McLaren wrote: > On Mon, Jul 05, 1999 at 11:26:58PM +0000, Jon Camfield wrote: > > | > So, given that what I want to do would be non-commercial, > | >low-bandwidth (comparatively, it'd be pretty big for a 28.8 ;) ), and > | >(hopefully) not a security risk, do any of you know if TW would allow > | >this? > | > | The policy you sign is for NO SERVERS, PERIOD. > > Not quite. That is how they're interpeting it, but what the policy > *really* says is : > > >From "Definitions, 5.(b):" available at > http://www.austin.rr.com/twaustin/termsandcond.html : > > "Subscriber will not resell the Service, or any portion thereof, or > otherwise charge others to use the Service, or any portion > thereof. The Service is for personal use only, and Subscriber agrees > not to use the Service for operation as an Internet Service Provider, > to host web sites for other parties or for any other business > enterprise or to connect the Cable modem to any server or to any > computer outside of the Subscriber's premises." > > They key is the phrase : > > `... or to connect the Cable modem to any server or to any computer > outside of the Subscriber's premises.' > > Which can be read to mean at least two different things : > > 1) your cable modem can't be connected to any server. > your cable modem can't be connected to any computer outside of > your premises. > > or > > 2) your cable modem can't be connected ( to any server or to any > computer ) outside of your premises. I think #2 is a reasonable interpretation taken in context with the "personal use only" mandate. "[O]utside of your premises" modifies the entire "to any server or to any computer" clause, and thus it actually implies that the usage of servers for "personal use only" is an acceptable use, if you keep the modem in your home. Hey, I use RR, and I have no intention of shutting down my personal-use-only-servers on my generic rh6 box. I'm sure that TW has a gaggle of bright in-house attorneys to draft their contracts - if they wanted to make it clearer, they could have done so easily enough. "Thou shall not use servers of any kind on the Road Runner service." And then add a little definition of "server" and whammo - you got all those linux freaks busted. If they send me a threatening letter, they won't get anywhere. > > > English - what a wonderfully ambiguous language. > > | Would they notice and/or > | disconnect your account presuming you weren't being a bandwidth hog? > | doubtful. > > > People have said they've gotten the nasty letters about it without > being a bandwidth hog. At least that's what they claimed :) > > And RR *is* probing for servers ... we see it in our logs. > > | I know people who run personal FTP servers, and even full-scale > | linux/apache based servers full-time without getting priveledges revoked. > > Me too. > > -- > Doug McLaren, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Send administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Send administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
