hey ... i'm trying to filter the output of tail ... i know to show everything that says "something" all i have to do is pipe the output of tail into grep ... like: tail -f /etc/httpd/logs/access_log | grep something and i know to have everything show except for "somethingelse" i do: tail -f /etc/httpd/logs/access_log | grep -v somethingelse but can i, using one grep command, show only "something" but not "somethingelse" ? ... i've tryed: tail -f /etc/httpd/logs/access_log | grep someting | grep -v somethingelse but that spits out big hunks every 1-2 minutes ... it doesn't actually follow it real time ... and yes i have read the man page for it ... but i didn't see anything to say about combining what i want to search for and what i want to skip ... if it's painfully obvious, please help me out ... sometimes i'm pretty stupid ... (c: thanx a lot, jason fowler --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Send administrative requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]