> According to the logic of getting him arrested in > Austria ... Just after the > end of apartheid[1] in america and south Africa > shouldn't the black > community in these two countries have gotten all > people who supported > apartheid till a while ago jailed/tried?
Well, there are cases where this has been tried. It is not particularly funny having to admit this, but when you get the majority of the population having been part of genocide or systemic racism (i.e. Ruanda, Germany under Hitler, US under segregation and long after), you face almost impossible practical problems, since you would have to jail millions of people. In the case of Germany, many were tried (and shot); Nazi party members lost their jobs and were thrown out of public life. How many > cases did we see? Did we > see any govt. officials being tried, the president? Please remember that the ANC made the decision to forgive, but not to forget. Ergo the Truth Commission etc. They wanted to find out what really happened, at the expense of persecution and jailing people. > The judges who had been > handing down racially discriminatory sentences to > blacks? > > Hah. It does not make the case for persecution any less valid. > > And they jail this dude for anti-Semitism. Not to > look down on Jews ... But > I believe what happened (and happens) with black > people is a bigger worry > ... Or does america/europe look at anti-Semitism as > a bigger problem because > it affects other whites? I am afraid you misunderstand. Jews were not regarded as whites by the likes of Hitler and his political descendants. And the descendants I am aware of will not regard Jews as whites/Europeans to this day. Plus the very same characters are directing their fire against Muslims now. Oh boy. -Frank > > - Vinit > > > > > Before you flame me for calling what happened in usa > as 'apartheid' ... > Understand that apartheid is just another word for > segregation. > See below ... > [1] racial, political, and economic segregation of > non-European peoples (at > http://oregonstate.edu/instruct/anth370/gloss.html) > [1.1] an Afrikaans word which essentially means > segregation (at > www.allaboutjazz.com/php/article.php) > > > > ______________________ > Vinit Bhansali > www.logic2go.com > www.bhansalimail.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > et] On Behalf Of Biju Chacko > > Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:46 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [silk] Austria holds 'Holocaust > denier' > > > > On 18/11/05, Martin Senftleben > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's a very difficult terrain, because at a > certain point you reach > > > the same position the other has, and you are as > "bad" as he is. How > > > long is it "protecting the freedom of thought > and speech", and when > > > does it begin to be an attac against another > person's life? > > > > There are no easy answers -- otherwise we wouldn't > be having > > this conversation. > > > > My main worry is that many countries seem be > drawing the line closer > > to "restrict individual rights" rather than > "protect free speech". > > > > Restrictions on individual rights are often easily > justified > > especially "for the common good" -- and in the > case of loonies like > > David Irving it's even easier. > > > > However at which point does it stop "serving the > common good" and > > starts to merely serve the good of whoever is in > power? > > > > -- b > > > > > ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com
