On 12/24/05, Bruce Metcalf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02:05 AM 12/24/2005, A. M. Merritt wrote: > >On 12/23/05, Eugen Leitl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 23, 2005 at 09:45:51AM -0800, Thaths wrote: > > > > > > > The AI inside the Googleplex makes an announcement about its existence. > > > > > > ...and three months later the world as we know it ceases to exist. > > > > > > >I, for one, welcome our new Google AI overlords. > > They would certainly have to be badly miswired indeed to be worse > than the current management on this planet. > > Or is that just *my* country?
Well, Considering that Google has pledged NOT to be evil, and our present guvmint can make no such claim in its quest to monitor US citizens without a warrant or knowledge of anyone of any kind and with no outside authority necessary, I'd have to say yes, the Google AI plex sounds a tiny bit better. I have had my phone records reviewed by my guvmint without a warrant. It was in 1993/4. It turns out, if they're not planning on using the outcome in any court proceedings, they can do whatever they like. My phone company turned them over without so much as a squeak, no warrant or clue of any kind, and had the nerve to get uppity and defensive about it when I tried to confront them. Fuckers. The situation didn't concern me accusationally, it concerned a crime that was committed by someone else. I was one small part of a much larger case. But, it didn't matter. My phone records got scoured, my relatives got interrogated for NO GOOD REASON, and I was left confused and angry as a result. I'm not really in the mood to describe the evil twisted gordian knot of events than lead up to it, but I can tell you that they don't really give a shit about US citizen rights. They only care about what their bosses tell them to care about. From what I can see, it's not getting any better. If US guvmint types of any kind ever turn up, get a lawyer, and quick. Don't wait to find out what they're really there for. I guarantee that even if they claim they're on your side, they're not. Let your own attorney thread the needle for you. As an American whose family has been in this country for 350-500+ years, don't let them deceive you into believing that somehow their tactics are only applied to "insurgents" or "terrorists". They do the same thing to everyone. Believe me, it's not personal, and it's certainly not new. By the way, it's come to my attention that certain communications commands have moved to Getmo. This means that the people whose job it is to monitor cell phone conversations overseas are no longer in the US, and therefore no longer under the control of the FCC or any other US federal jurisdiction, since Getmo isn't in the US. Theoretically they're not supposed to monitor US local cell phone traffic, but there's nothing stopping them given that they can most certainly monitor international traffic on the same damned satellites. Our cell phone providers lease bandwidth from guvmint satellites. Don't think for one instant that any conversation you have is private, US based or not. A great deal of US monitoring trafficking has moved "offshore". Again, it would not surprise me if a substantial volume of this has moved to India, under the guise of some other name. Now that the traffic is reduced to data structure and bytes, it's not nearly such a big deal to analyze it at leisure. Since it's now known that conversations originating in the US destined for overseas are monitored "illegally", I count on you all to give our guvmint monitors something to entertain their days while they sift for illegal evil stuff. $;^D Since it's not outside the law to sift through data siphoned by other governments, there's probably a secondary market of oursourced data collection, enabled by our own guvmint that can't necessarily do it themselves legally, making things happen. This to me is one of the values of the India outsourcing market - a little thing we like to call, "Plausible deniability". Anne Marie -- Moral Indignation is Jealousy with a halo. H.G. Wells, The Wife of Sir Isaac Harman (1914)
