Rishab Aiyer Ghosh forwarded a note from Perry Metzger: [ on 09:33 PM 8/11/2006 ]

So, I'm doing a bunch of reading, and I find the claimed method the
"highly sophisticated" attackers came up with for bringing down
airliners kind of implausible. I wonder if it could ever work in
reality.

Here's some more informed speculation from the SciAm blog. Perry and a couple of other interested parties are copied on this note. Feel free to copy silklist on your responses, if any.

Udhay

http://blog.sciam.com/index.php?title=what_was_the_explosive&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1&ref=rss

August 10, 2006

What Was the Explosive?

News reports [1] of the multi-plane bombing plan mention an explosive that could have been smuggled as seemingly innocuous fluid and mixed together on board.

One possibility is triacetone triperoxide [2], or TATP, which may have been used in the London Underground bombings and in the alleged shoe bomb. Last month, a student in Texas City, just south of Houston, died [3] when he created some in his apartment and it literally blew up in his face. TATP can be readily made from hydrogen peroxide, acetone, and a small amount of acid, typically sulfuric acid. (I'm not giving anything away to mention these ingredients -- they are widely known.) It takes hours to crystallize out of solution, but the New York Times [4] reported that a bomb-maker would not need crystals; the solution itself could be detonated.

New Scientist [5] quoted experts saying it might have been nitroglycerine, but that nitro would have quickly reacted to form ammonia at easily detectable levels.

The Independent [6] cited several other possibilities: nitromethane, nitroethane, methyl nitrate, and the Astrolite family. I think we can rule Astrolite because hydrazine, one of the binary compounds used to make it, is so toxic. Nitromethane is the primary component of PLX [7], thought to have been used by North Korean agents to blow up Korean Air flight 858 in 1987. Methyl nitrate can be made from nitric acid, sulfuric acid, and methanol, but it takes some care.

I'm interested to learn just how tightly sealed the containers were, what sort of chemistry lab the terrorists proposed to set up on the plane, and how they proposed to detonate the explosive.

Andrew Sullivan [8]suggested that the liquid may not have been an explosive but a binary chemical weapon.

My colleague Dave Biello has more [9] to say.

Posted by George Musser

[1] http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6006388,00.html
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acetone_peroxide
[3] http://www.houstonist.com/archives/2006/07/21/khou_tx_city_me.php
[4] http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/11/world/europe/11liquid.html
[5] http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn9712
[6] http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/article1218318.ece
[7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLX
[8] http://time.blogs.com/daily_dish/2006/08/their_igod.html
[9] http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000A108C-BE4B-14DB-BE4B83414B7F0000&ref=sciam&chanID=sa003




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