On Wed September 6 2006 11:14 am, Ramakrishnan Sundaram wrote:
>  I hope you are
> not suggesting that an "unfettered" environment for these agencies
> means that they are not subject to executive and political supervision
> for, among other things, preventing human rights violations

I hope you are joking. Security force excesses in India have everything to do 
with executive and political interference in the name of "supervision". 

But I sense a curious (and misplaced) optimism in your statement suggesting 
that "executive and politcal supervision" might somehow prevent police 
excesses. In fact I have access to studies that show that police excesses are 
directly linked to the political bosses and political color of the state - 
with the police coming under the state government.

In short - the politicians and bureaucrats are screwed up, with  the police 
and judges perhaps second to that. None of these groups is going to correct 
themselves or each other.  The police generally occupy the bottom tier in 
this heirarchy and take orders fom the rot above. Thankfully all these groups 
have some good eggs along with the bad ones.

I am tempted to bleat that it is up to us the public to address the problem. 
But long before "we the public" can help correct the problem we have to 
recognise what the problem is and where it lies and not clutch at straws or 
take down strawmen. That realisation means sharing of accurate information 
about what is going on, and the removal of popular myths that are doing the 
rounds in social amd media circles.

Ram for two years I have been getting ever more deeply involved with issues of 
public participation in  governance and a lot of my views have moved from 
where you may believe they lay.

shiv


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