FWIW, we already have criminal castes, registered and tagged, and dragged into 
the local lock-up as the usual suspects whenever a crime takes place.
   
  Nothing new, dates back to the British.

shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  On Thursday 13 Sep 2007 7:13 am, Charles Haynes wrote:
> On 9/13/07, shiv sastry wrote:
> > He has less absolute amounts of money than many of his peers and the
> > people in his new nation and is therefore more likely to be tempted to
> > cheat or steal. This would call for racial profiling as a way of tackling
> > crime, and it would be right.
>
> Class, not race and it would only be "right" if you believe
> correlation is the same as causality.


I stand corrected. I should have said class and not race, though in the 
particular example that I used, race could be convenient starting point for 
profiling.

Still, I see some very interesting fallout from the correlation "relative 
poverty==tendency to criminal behavior" because of what I believe is a 
widespread tendency to ignore less visible "other things" and making 
correlation=causality.

For example, in an ancient social system such as we find in India, there are 
pools of castes who are far less likely to get high paying jobs than others. A 
large majority of people in the highest paying jobs and professions belong to 
higher castes such as Brahmins and Vysyas, and a large proportion of the 
people in the lowest paid jobs tend to be from the lowest castes or the 
former outcastes - now called Dalits.

Using the correlation "relative poverty==tendency to criminal behavior" and 
ignoring invisible "other things" that could render this as a poor predictor 
of causality, we can come up with the concept of "criminal castes".

For example, a Dalit who gets a college education by means of reservation and 
then gets a high paying job will still come from a social group who are paid 
relatively much less. Using the correlation in the previous paragraph we can 
reach the conclusion that this Dalit's relatives and extended family are more 
likely to show criminal behavior related to temptation and disparity. This 
would be in contrast to say a Brahmin or Kshatriya colleague of his, whose 
social group is well off and are less likely to show criminal behavior. 

shiv




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