On 1/22/08, shiv sastry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday 22 Jan 2008 12:00 am, Anish Mohammed wrote:
> >  It might not be that bad to be a shia during muharram in Pakistan.
> > Infact though a minority they have been in power in Pakisthan.
> > regards
>
> >Anish - the "in power" bit is news to me.  Jinnah was the only nominal
> shia
> >who held power in Pakistan.


 From what I gather, Bhutto dynasty is Shia ( I could be wrong).

>Pakistan has gradually become more and more anti shia. "Its not the people"
> we
> >like to say and that may be true. Then it is the hardline ahle hadith
> >theologians with their army mentors.


I dont know much about internal politics of pakisthan. Again I might be
wrong, but blaming ahle hadith for all that goes wrong doesnt seem me as
pointing at the right direction, it seems much more complex than that. There
is a large population which is seen as fertile ground by both parties
involved, both are trying hard to gain the ground, resulting in excesses(e.g.
Iraq). An equation has two sides, I am sure we could find different analysis
of things.


>Musharraf was also known as the "Butcher of Gilgit" for having ruthlessly
> put
> >down a shia rebellion in that area (Gilgit and Baltistan) under his
> mentor
> >Zia. In recent years there have been bomb blasts in shia mosques, and
> last
> >week there were several Muharram related  anti-shia clashes in Pakistan
> and
> >one in Kashmir in India.

Having anti-shia clashes in Muharram, should not be suprising. Muharram is
seen by one of the parties where thier rightful leader was killed by the
deviants.


>Frankly I believe  India is the only country (perhaps next to Iraq under
> >Saddam) in which shias, sunnis and ahmedis cannot get into pitched
> battles to
> >dominate the other. In the rest of the world sunnis dominate shias except
> in
> >Iran where shias rule. Iraq is looking like it is going to split on
> >shia-sunni lines now. Ahmedis have been declared "non Muslim" in
> Pakistan.


Again I dont claim to know much, but Bahrian has majority shia population.
Syria is ruled by shia rulers. Lebanon has a very strong shia group
Hisbullah. The list goes on, I do recollect reading an article in foreign
affairs about differnet sects in islam and political power.

I guess in the end, I have to agree with Cheeni on xenophobia.
regards
Anish

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