On Thursday 21 Aug 2008 6:43:58 pm Bonobashi wrote:
> I'm afraid I won't find myself alone in believing that 8 out of 10 of those
> Kashmiris living in the Valley want out. It isn't clear what proportion
> want to join Pakistan, and what section wants independence, but it is
> unlikely that they want to stay on as part of India.

Stephen Cohen the "South Asia Expert" from Brookings (I hate South Asia 
experts) actually wrote a good book on Pakistan. He said that the danger 
signs of Pakistani failure were when the elite started migrating out.

However I believe he hinted that they might want to migrate to the West. I 
believe he was wrong. As Pakistan fails, there are more and more people from 
Pakistan looking at India. Not in terms of rejoining India (what a horror 
that would be) but in terms of regaining some of the old magic that they felt 
they had when India was them. A lot of articles are taking this concilatory 
line nowadays.

Arrayed against that is Zia's Islam and an education system that has taught 
Pakistani children in standard school textbooks that India is to be feared 
and hated.

Political correctness in too many media result in the refusal to acknowledge 
that Pakistan the nation of pure Muslims formed purely for Islam now has a 
problem with the religion of peace. The news at this moment says a suicide 
bomber killed 60 people in Islamabad. Yestreday Shias wre killed by a suicide 
bomber outside a hospital. 

Pakistan is not a state that is stable and nobody is taking the demands of 
Pakistan the state very seriously except for its propensity to cause violence 
and mayhem. With Pakistan itself being relegated to the third division, the 
feelings of the people of Kashmir don't count for much to anyone who matters.

If they stay with India - they will be given a place to live and a veneer of 
secularism and some opportunities. If they don't like that they will not get 
anything else. They will have to shape up, or shape up. The ship out option 
don't exist.

shiv



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