* Charles Haynes ([email protected]) [110805 16:36]:
> On Aug 6, 2011 2:51 AM, "Heather Madrone" <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > On 8/4/11 7:18 PM August 4, 2011, ss wrote:
> >>
> >> What is a "secular democracy"? How would a non secular democracy work?
> Does anyone have any examples of a non secular democracy?
> >
> >
> > Israel.
>
> Actually there are a fair number of democracies with an official state
> religion. Italy and Spain obviously, but also the UK (CoE) and Ireland.
Calling Israel a democracy is like calling white South Africa a
democracy in the days of apartheid.
Arabs and other non-Jews can be "citizens" but only Jews can be
"nationals". About 20% of the population is disenfranchised
on racial grounds.
For example, the ILA administers about 93.5% of the land in Israel.
If you're not a Jew, what that means is that you're completely
locked out of land ownership in these areas, as well as for nearly
all government jobs -- regardless of your politics, police record,
or anything else. You're locked out because of your ethnicity.
Check the UN definition of apartheid, then consider exactly what's
going on in Israel, and then it becomes clear why people like
Nelson Mandela agree that Israel is an apartheid state.
http://www.un.org/ga/search/view_doc.asp?symbol=A/res/3068%28XXVIII%29
Recently the Knesset even passed legislation that makes it possible
for illegal settlers to sue people for advocating a boycott, and
extract payment from them without even needing to prove any damages.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lara-friedman/israel-boycott-law_b_898317.html
It's appalling that Zionists use the memory of the Holocaust in their
attempts
to justify a barbaric system of colonialism, occupation, and apartheid,
then get all hot under the collar when someone points out the irony of
the grim concrete walls and barbed wires that have come to symbolize
their "promised land". A democracy? Calling Israel a democracy
is to deprive the word of all meaning.
-Jon
