On 7 Aug 2011, at 10:04, Biju Chacko wrote:

> Frankly, I don't particularly mind Shiv's posts. From where I sit, he's only 
> trolling about half the time. The rest of the time he's merely expressing his 
> views. I may not agree with him, but so what?
> 
> In any case, what's interesting about always talking to people who agree with 
> you? I kinda miss Arsalan Zaidi, for those of you who remember.
> 
> On the other hand, I rather object to hidden agendas, sock puppets and 
> similar weirdness.
> 
> -
> 
> 
I thought this thread was declared closed, but if it is open, let me just pop 
up to say that I basically agree with Biju. 

I don't always agree with Shiv, but I like reading his posts and appreciate his 
perspective. Although I disagree with most of Shiv's politics, I do agree with 
him that in certain circles, it is very hard to have a reasonable discussion 
about "right wing" issues without being dismissed as a loon. I don't know 
anything about this weirdness surrounding Anand and the private emails, but I 
have known Shiv online for a very long time and have had no difficulty in 
"assuming goodwill" about his posts. 

Having said that, Shiv, I do think that your posting style makes it difficult 
for people to engage with you. It feels like all your replies are just 
questions back to the original poster - you clearly have a viewpoint (and it 
isn't that hard to figure out from your questions) but you rarely come out and 
say it. It almost feels like the way you'd teach a law school class using the 
Socratic method. But it's not the best way to engage with someone online. I 
would appreciate it if you could just come right out and say what you think and 
why you disagree (if you do) with whoever you are responding to. 

Badri

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