On Feb 25, 2012, at 9:01 PM, ss wrote:
> 
> 
> There was a time maybe from the 1800s to the early 1900s where "science" 
> actually believed that humans occured in "races". Races were not defined on 
> any 
> objective metric but usually on physical characteritics like skin color and 
> shape of nose or some feature visible to humans. Shape and size of nose 
> became 
> an impotant way of recognizing superior and inferior races - with Aborigines 
> and people of African origing occupying the lowermost rung.
> 

I find it not too difficult to understand how people 100 years ago could 
believe in "races"; what's frustrating to me is to see how hard it is for 
humans to get past this notion today.

I like to consider myself an enlightened non-racist, but I confess that I was 
surprised to learn recently that "negroid"-looking people from Africa and 
someplace else (I forget where -- Papua New Guinea, perhaps, or someplace 
there) who to the proverbial naked eye resemble each other had (statistically 
speaking) less in common with each other than either "race" had with the 
typical european.  So, again, I can understand how people predisposed to racist 
thinking would assume that Africans and New Guineans (or whatever) were of the 
same variety of "other." I expect some part of this "otherness" detection is 
hard-wired.

What's harder for me to understand and abide is "scientific" racism in 2012, 
when the information is available to any moderately intelligent person of good 
will to demolish such nonsense.

I live in the USA;  was born & raised here. 

What's odd, depressing, and curiously interesting to me is that although there 
are people in this country from all over the globe, Americans with virtually 
every genetic marker borne by humans on earth, the "race question" in the USA 
pretty much still revolves around "black" and "white"'; that is, European and 
African. Really, it's as if people who came from (or whose ancestors came from) 
India, North America, China, Japan, Viet Nam, Laos, Mexico, Peru, Indonesia, 
etc, etc, etc don't even exist when the subject of "Race in America" comes up. 

Truly, this is odd. For example, I, a typical "white" european-American, 
personally know Indian-Ameican, Native Americans, Chines-Americans, Japanese 
Americans, Laotian Americans, Mexican Americans, Peruvian Americans, Indonesian 
Americans, and more. And also, of course, some African Americans. 

Hispanic Americans, I believe, outnumber (or soon will outnumber) African 
Americans. So why does discussion of race in America always come down to 
"white" (European) and Black (African)?

I've been thinking a lot about this lately. And I've come to a few (entirely 
non-original) conclusions, among them that the toxic mix of the  institution of 
African slavery, the Civil War & its aftermath, and evangelical so-called 
"Christianity" combined to form  a toxic racist contamination that this nation 
is only now, 150 years after the Civil War, finally capable of addressing. The 
more I read about the Civil War, the psychological challenge faced by the 
defeated South, and the rise of "born again" racist "Christianity" as a 
response to this defeat, the close I come to thinking I have some kind of 
handle on what country I actually live in. This has become a hobby horse of 
mine; of the 50 books I've read over the last year or two, about 35 have been 
on this general subject area. 

Wether we *will* address the origins and nature of American racism and get 
beyond our horrible history remains, in my opinion, to be seen. On this topic, 
on some days I'm optimistic, and on other days I think we're terminally fucked.

Kind regards,

jrs


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