Cheeni, you did read what I wrote about urdu originally evolving as a lingua franca for Mughal troops of various ethnicities (arab, turk, farsi, afghan, uzbek, tajik etc + various indian ethnic groups)?
In fact it was originally called lashkari (army speech) for that reason .. Poetry in urdu is a bit "late" in evolving, as you point out - because most poets considered it street argot, whereas the courtly language was Persian and earlier, turki. > -----Original Message----- > From: silklist-bounces+suresh=hserus....@lists.hserus.net [mailto:silklist- > bounces+suresh=hserus....@lists.hserus.net] On Behalf Of Srini RamaKrishnan > Sent: 22 May 2012 12:40 > To: silklist@lists.hserus.net > Subject: Re: [silk] Help!--linguistic brain-tapping needed, please > > On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 7:04 AM, Suresh Ramasubramanian <sur...@hserus.net> > wrote: > > The hindi dialects in several places (cities such as hyderabad and > > lucknow) that have a largely mixed population are heavily urdu > > flavored compared to the hindi spoken in some other places, so there's > > a geographic / locational element as well. > > Urdu didn't evolve as a single language, Urdu is the language that came out > of the later mixed blood Mughals in India who could no longer entirely or > conveniently trace their tongue back to Persia or Turkey or thereabouts. > > The court affairs of the Mughal emperors till the last one, Bahadur Shah > Zafar were conducted in Persian, and Ghalib, the famous poet refused to write > couplets in Urdu initially, deeming it too lower class since he drew parental > lineage from Genghis Khan and Tamur Lane (as did Babur, and every chest > thumping Mughal - no one wants to be descended from any lesser source it > seems). However he did indeed compose Urdu couplets since he also loved the > language on merit, beautiful ones too, but when a friend from Lucknow urged > him to recite them in Lucknow he refused on the grounds that Lucknowis will > never understand the Urdu of the streets of Delhi.
