Shiv, read Heinlien.

On 08-Sep-2014 10:27 pm, "SS" <[email protected]> wrote:

> On Mon, 2014-09-08 at 11:37 +0200, Dave Long wrote:
> > (to what degree do the philosophers and the priests differ from the
> > fiction writers?)
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> Please correct me if you think I am wrong, but Sci Fi writers ( to the
> extent that I have read scifi in recent decades) generally do not deal
> in questions of morality except in terms of some power or entity who is
> a threat to humanity or something that restricts rights.
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> Philosophers and priests tend to address morality. Morality is generally
> a restriction of rights.
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> Sci Fi can be taken as one type of literary output from societies where
> science and technology have profoundly influenced the lives of people in
> those societies. The creation of science fiction (as opposed to pure
> fiction) I believe has occurred only in some societies. If the "mood" of
> SciFi output has changed over many decades from positive to negative, it
> could possibly indicate a change of attitude about the future in that
> society. But this would be a sociological judgement, unless I am
> mistaken.
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> Strictly speaking I don't think the societal issues that Sci Fi writers
> deal with coincide with the issues that priests and philosophers deal
> with. The common areas are restricted to where science has affected
> morality - and to that extent science and morality have come into
> conflict. I am not sure if Sci Fi writers have taken sides on these
> issues.
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> Once again, please correct me if you think I am wrong. The "science" (if
> that is what it is) of sociology came up only because of the need to
> study non western societies and document the differences between the
> "normal" society of the sociologist with the exotic "other" society. Not
> a lot of effort was expended in "observing" western societies from the
> outside because all sociologists were from within western societies and
> were unable or unwilling to comment on western societies that funded
> their work and left it to the priests, philosophers and more recently
> Sci Fi writers.
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> But surely it would have to be sociologists, more than any other people
> who would be able to comment with authority and knowledge on all
> societies and express some opinion on features of societies that may be
> negative or positive. If they don't know who would?
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