G'Day All

This web site might be useful background for everyone using colloidal
silver.

http://www.elixa.com/silver/lindmn.htm

full of good information about colloidal silver.

For those of you interested, I have an audio tape about Pycnogenol.
This is a super anti-oxidant 20 times more powerful than vitamin C and
50 times more powerful than vitamin E. Also helps to 'protect' vitamin C
and make it last longer. If you would like a copy of this tape, email me
at [email protected]

Hydrogen peroxide. In summer I spray myself with a weak solution of H2O2
before having a shower in the morning. Once the H2O2 dries I then have a
quick shower. The effect of this is amazing. much more energy & you
really feel alive. I Don't do it in winter - too bloody cold standing
round starkers waiting for the H2O2 solution to dry. Also helps with BO
too. Use it under the arms instead of deoderant.

HTH
Don
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Don Straatman - Sydney


Berntsen wrote:
> 
> Hi, everybody,
> 
> The sailing weather was wonderful this weekend.  The only problem was
> that the draw bridge was stuck down, so we couldn't get out of the bay
> in time to get to Greenport, Sat.!  So we had our weekend "vacation" on
> the CT coastline instead!  Finally got out late Sat. afternoon for a
> little sail but the winds were very light by then.  Well, you know, a
> bad day sailing is better than a good day at work!
> 
> Since I read that article on Silver Products (posted recently in , I've
> been considering more a point referred to in the article regarding Vit.
> E, selenium and silver consumption.  P. 121:  "Some researchers have
> suggested that Vit. E or selenium deficiency may increase susceptibility
> to systemic silver toxicity.  Wagner et.al. and Bunyan et.al have shown
> that hepatic necrosis can be induced by administering silver
> preparations to Vitamin E/selenium deficient rats.  They hypothesized
> that toxicity was due to a silver-induced selenium deficiency that
> inhibits the synthesis of the seleno-enzyme gutathione peroxidase.
> Further, Bunyan et.al. showed that if rat diets were supplemented with
> selenium or vitamin E, exposure to silver as high as 140 mg/kg/d was
> still well tolerated.  [That's pretty high, now, isn't it?]
> "When absorption is limited, systemic silver toxicity occurs
> infrequently.  However, after ingestion, up to 10% of silver *salts* may
> be absorbed.  Moreover, absorption is increased from disrupted mucous
> membranes or skin wounds such as burns.  Also, ingested soluble silver
> salts may corrode the gastrointestinal mucosa.  Occasionally, death may
> result from local trauma, hemorrhagic gastroenteritis, and shock."
> 
> Is silver oxide a salt?
> 
> >From the context, it appears that this is still a discussion of animal
> studies.  But perhaps we should be cautious in using our weak solutions
> on slow-healing open wounds, or if there is a history of
> gastrointestinal bleeding, etc.
> 
> The reason I brought this up is because I think what we are producing is
> silver oxide when we make our colloidal silver, as hydrogen bubbles
> break away from the HO2 and the silver then comes off the wire into the
> solution, presumably balancing with the free oxygen.  Am I correct?
> 
> So I wonder if some of the benefit from colloidal silver may also be in
> taking more oxygen in as well.  In reviewing a webpage on "Vitamin 0,"
> it seemed as though the process of making vitamin O was similar to the
> process of making colloidal silver.  (see http://www.readbiotech.com).
> 
> I have heard of people taking peroxide, and now I just found a page
> about peroxide emulsions of some sort for skin care that apparently
> increase O2 in the body similar to hyperbaric oxygen therapy.
> 
> It was from that page Oxygen Emulsion:  The Question of Free Radicals
> by Ted Kalli (http://www.livelinks.com/sumeria/oxy/rad2.html) that I was
> brought back to thoughts about the article about silver and the
> relationship of antioxidants, or the notion that we should be taking
> Vit. E supplements while taking silver. [reviewed by me in: "Re: CS
> turning black-- LONG (review of Literature re: argyria)"]
> 
> Am I off in limbo, or is there a relationship between oxygen and silver
> consumption, and therefore that could be why we should take antioxidants
> concurrently?  I thought the mechanism of silver was that it deprives
> bacteria of O2 produced by our enzymes & needed for sustaining itself
> (it smothers the bacteria.)
> 
> This just leaves me with more questions.  Is there a "peroxide" list
> where I can ask some questions (if I can ever figure out what my
> questions are?)
> 
> Can anybody shed some light on the relationship between silver, oxygen,
> peroxide, and antioxidants?
> 
> I have found out about a hyperbaric list, but I don't remember how you
> subscribe to lists, either.  Their address is: [email protected] .
> 
> Anybody want to read something uplifting?  Read below how the hyperbaric
> chamber helped this wife/mother apparently dying from MS.  (As a Lyme
> victim myself, I wouldn't be surprised if the really enemy was a
> spirochete bacteria such as the Lyme bacteria!  That's not unusual.
> It's often the culprit behind fibromyalgia, CFS, ADD, Alzeihmers, and
> more.)
> 
> The  attached posting may be confusing; just ignore the beginning; one
> of our Lyme disease posters didn't know how she got this, but since it
> was so good, she posted it on the LD newsgroup.
> 
> Maybe I'm pretty confused, too, about silver, oxygen, etc.  It just
> seems there's some relationship here, and I don't have the big picture.
> Although I got an above average grade, chemistry was not my strong-point
> in college. I barely remember anything about it except getting extra
> points for getting my own name right on the tests!  :)
> 
> Sincerely,
> Nancy
> 
> (mailto:[email protected])
> http://www.connix.com/~berntsen/
> 
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