Reid Smith wrote: > M. G. Devour wrote: > >Since a good (indeed, better!) product can be made without added > >salts, I agree there is no compelling reason to use them. Mr. > >Lindemann's article has convinced me to re-evaluate my own > >procedures and try this method. > > Use simple baking soda insted of salt, it works just as good with no > toxicity at all. Mix it the same way as the salt solution.
It is another method, indeed. I doubt chemical poisoning from adding these electrolytes is a serious issue, once you examine it. If Lindemann's assertion is correct, however, and the particles are much larger using them, then we have a problem that deserves to be addressed. Some say electrolytes are okay, others won't use them. Lindemann reports: "Actual electron microscope photographs of this material show silver particles in the range of .05 to .15 microns," which he says are too large. At least it seems that *someone* has spent the money on the tests. Without those tests, none of us can even say with certainty what we're producing. With electron microscopy and total elemental analysis costing hundreds of dollars per sample, we are all left with more or less blind faith that what we are doing is right. Honestly, have any of us the time and money to study all the variables to find the combinations that work -- and *verify* every step of the way? One obvious question that comes to mind: What is the relationship between electrolyte concentration and the size and production rate of silver particles? Would less electrolyte provide a better compromise between speed and quality? Well, okay! Let's make 10 samples at different electrolyte concentrations and test the particle size and ppm of each. Oh, and then we can try again with a *different* electrolyte, to see if it's different. And then we can test them all again just to be sure. And test them again and again over time to measure shelf life. Err, Ahh... Gee, what voltage do you think we should select for these tests? Where should we get the electrodes? And what source of distilled water? And how long should we let them cook? When should we start timing? Do we swish it, or boil it? How about adding peroxide? Oh, yeah, and Scott, I think, is trying AC instead of DC... And so on, and so on, ad nauseum... Let's see, I think the lab test budget just grew way past $10,000! At some point you need to evaluate whether it makes sense to move the testing in house. That means facilities, equipment, training, and supplies. Or you can try to find a lab that will negotiate the lease or sharing of equipment. Or maybe we can get a government grant? <big grin> So you can see what I'm saying. We make some CS and it seems to work. But every one of us is making something a little different. The best we can do is to rely as best we can on the few authorities who *have* done the testing. But then, every new variable we introduce changes everything. We're *all* test pilots, here! The redeeming feature of it all is the folks among us who are successfully treating themselves and regaining their health. *That* is what we're all here for! Thanks, Mike [Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian] [[email protected] ] [Speaking only for himself... ]

