Reid Smith wrote:
> M. G. Devour wrote:
> >Since a good (indeed, better!) product can be made without added
> >salts, I agree there is no compelling reason to use them. Mr.
> >Lindemann's article has convinced me to re-evaluate my own
> >procedures and try this method.
> 
>    Use simple baking soda insted of salt, it works just as good with no 
> toxicity at all. Mix it the same way as the salt solution.

It is another method, indeed. 

I doubt chemical poisoning from adding these electrolytes is a
serious issue, once you examine it. If Lindemann's assertion is
correct, however, and the particles are much larger using them, then
we have a problem that deserves to be addressed.

Some say electrolytes are okay, others won't use them. Lindemann
reports: "Actual electron microscope photographs of this material
show silver particles in the range of .05 to .15 microns," which he 
says are too large. At least it seems that *someone* has spent the 
money on the tests. Without those tests, none of us can even say with 
certainty what we're producing.

With electron microscopy and total elemental analysis costing
hundreds of dollars per sample, we are all left with more or less
blind faith that what we are doing is right. Honestly, have any of us
the time and money to study all the variables to find the
combinations that work -- and *verify* every step of the way?

One obvious question that comes to mind: What is the relationship 
between electrolyte concentration and the size and production rate of 
silver particles? Would less electrolyte provide a better compromise 
between speed and quality?

Well, okay! Let's make 10 samples at different electrolyte 
concentrations and test the particle size and ppm of each. Oh, and 
then we can try again with a *different* electrolyte, to see if it's 
different. And then we can test them all again just to be sure. And 
test them again and again over time to measure shelf life.

Err, Ahh... Gee, what voltage do you think we should select for these
tests? Where should we get the electrodes? And what source of 
distilled water? And how long should we let them cook? When should we 
start timing? Do we swish it, or boil it? How about adding peroxide? 
Oh, yeah, and Scott, I think, is trying AC instead of DC... And so 
on, and so on, ad nauseum...

Let's see, I think the lab test budget just grew way past $10,000!

At some point you need to evaluate whether it makes sense to move
the testing in house. That means facilities, equipment, training, and
supplies. Or you can try to find a lab that will negotiate the lease
or sharing of equipment. Or maybe we can get a government grant?
<big grin>

So you can see what I'm saying. We make some CS and it seems to work. 
But every one of us is making something a little different. The best 
we can do is to rely as best we can on the few authorities who *have* 
done the testing. But then, every new variable we introduce changes 
everything. We're *all* test pilots, here!

The redeeming feature of it all is the folks among us who are 
successfully treating themselves and regaining their health. *That* 
is what we're all here for!

Thanks,

Mike


[Mike Devour, Citizen, Patriot, Libertarian]
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