It is sad that sometimes people get stuck on their own self importance.
What difference does it make just how something is discovered, if it works
for you and has improved your health, it just might help someone else to
improve their health.  Anyone with the ability to read can discover for
themselves what information applies to them, as with most things interpation
takes president. Remember this, when a person write and pass an exam all it
proves is, that at a point in time they remembered sonething. Does it mean
that a person who studies to become a preacher is any more knowledgeable
then a person who reads the good book daily, I wonder?  Knowledge is of
little value if it cannot be shared with others! If you really don't like
the imput of someone on the list use your delete button then you don't have
to read the message and get yourself all worked up for nothing.  Remember
"IF IT WORKS FOR YOU. IT JUST MAY WORK FOR SOMEONE ELSE"

In Good Health

Ted Windsor
Kelowna B.C.

>DR.  TOM....
>Start  your  own  c-silver  list
>You  can  call  it  "MDs  only  colloidal  silver  mailing  list"
>See  how  much  you  learn........that is  if  you are  even  interested in
> learning  in  the  first  place.
>
>BTW, I  have  little  comprehension  why  someone  as  clever  as  you 
>would  make  a  career
>in  radiology.
>I  wouldn't  be  caught  dead  in  any  rad  unit  due  to  exposure  and 
>don't  go  on  and  tell  me  how  you  were  protected.
>X  rays  have a use  but  I  would  not  spend  time  near  the 
>units.Radiation  for  cancer  is  truly  
>for  fools  unless  done  in  the  way  that  Andy  Grove  did it
>
>            Dan
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>> From: Tom Clayton, MD <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Look into yourself 
>> Date: Friday, December 26, 1997 11:42 PM
>> 
>> 
>> Scott:
>> 
>> Is this your correct email---noah? 
>> 
>> Scott Berner <[email protected]>
>> 
>> I would like you to answer the questions about 
>> what formal scientific training you have had, degrees
>> and so forth.  It is one thing to have been formally
>> trained in rigorous programs with objective testing
>> to demonstrate that you have the ability to understand
>> scientific concepts and it is quite another to pontificate
>> without having that training.  Most people who are capable
>> of competing with others intellectually in rigorous training
>> programs think twice before they offer opinions on those 
>> things that they do not truly understand.  
>> 
>> By the way, I appreciated Mike's comments.  You 
>> are clearly argumentative and offensive with your 
>> comments and observations and the fact that you do
>> not recognize that this is the case is part of the main 
>> problem.  
>> 
>> Your comments are set forth in "ad hominem" style, 
>> which means that they are "directed to the man" 
>> rather than to the subject matter.   Fundamentalist 
>> religious zealots absolutely cannot stand certain 
>> groups of people and are the first to attack.  They 
>> need something to hate, and it seems that the AMA
>> is your target.  There may be other things that you 
>> "hate".   Never mind that pharmaceutical companies 
>> have done some marvelous things with research that 
>> can help the little girl with diabetes far more than wood 
>> alcohol diatribes.  Never mind that there are many different
>> facets to medical care in this country.  Let's form a hate
>> club and just throw it all away---you are right and every-
>> body else is wrong!   Noah and his ark? 
>> 
>> This attitude is totally contrary to religion as I understand
>> it, but then I am not a fundamentalist.  I note that you 
>> concluded that I was not religious simply because I asked
>> you if your religious sayings had any business on a list 
>> about colloidal silver after you challenged me that my 
>> comments were not appropriate on a silver list.  You came 
>> to the wrong conclusion with less basis for that conclusion 
>> more quickly than anyone else I have ever met.  This is 
>> not how the scientific method works.  
>> 
>> Furthermore, it is clear that colloidal silver is a very
>> simple chemical concept.  You make it (or better yet
>> purchase from a manufacturer with quality controls who 
>> can accurately give you concentration levels rather than 
>> crude estimates based on the color of the solution) with 
>> some electrodes to form a particle solution and take 
>> it according to body weight.  Therefore, what is all this 
>> "knowledge" you are supposed to know that makes you 
>> so valuable that the list cannot exist without you?  
>> The intelligent mind simplifies, not complicates.      
>> 
>> You do not know what you do not know, and that 
>> is the major problem.  As these observations are certain
>> to make you "mad", despite the fact that they are only 
>> brutally honest, as are any other comments that point
>> out your inconsistencies or the fact that you may not 
>> truly be of the caliber that you think you are ("noah" 
>> to your sheep?), just keep in mind that if you want to
>> be honest with others then you have to start with 
>> yourself.  Giving your "honest" opinion to everyone else 
>> about things that you do not even begin to understand
>> is not being honest---it is being shallow and very 
>> self-centered.        
>> 
>> Sorry to break this news to you, as it will probably 
>> go in one ear and out the other, but someone has to at
>> least once.  God help you, because you need it.    
>> 
>> Tom Clayton 
>> 
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